Slideshow

[FINGERS20]

I have been playing about trying to burn and play back on my TV photos I took in Alaska. Playback is not terribly good however as there is a severe amount of compression applied to the production. My 2.3 gig file with some 390 photographs has all of a sudden been shrunk down to something in the order of 90mb! No wonder the pictures looked poor on screen on my TV. Is there some way of keeping the resolution/file quality? By the way, Windows 7 DVD maker makes a much better job of things and the quality on playback is noticeably superior because file sizes are not mucked around with. Kind of makes purchase of Creator 2010 pointless.

[Jim_Hardin]

Jim,

I think you have misunderstood the problem...............and yes, I am in storyline. The preview screen is not the problem. I am not a beginner at such matters. I shrunk the preview screen to its smallest size hoping that the thumbnail views of each individual photograph would increase in size but to no avail. Because the thumbnails are so small it makes moving round 404 images and video clips into a meaningful story that much more difficult. Unless there is a way in Videowave to make thumbnails bigger that I have missed? I don't want more thumbnails to view, I want less of them, and BIGGER!

I put all 3 on the screen and there is not enough difference in the sizes to support your contentions…

 

 

Likewise I made a DVD in both Win DVD Maker and Roxio Slideshow/MyDVD.

 

When it came time to burn, Win DVD Maker was at 50% before I even started MyDVD but MyDVD was at 97% when WinDVD finished, so there is no doubt that Win DVD Maker is very slow.

 

The DVD's were the exact same quality, reporting 720 X 480 & 8 mbps.

 

You are of course free to use whatever you want but don't bash a product just because you haven't learned how to use it.

 

[grandpabruce]

I use a 24inch monitor so there should be every chance to see reasonable size thumbnails. I tried changing the resolution but it really didn't make much difference and pictures became a little harder to make out due to being ressed up. I think producing in Slideshow then moving on to Videowave is the best way forward.

 

 

If it works for you, go with it.

[FINGERS20]

One last suggesrtion. Change to disoplay to the minimum acceptable by the program 1024 by 768 just for the slide shows. BTW, what size monitor do you have?

 

Changing mine results in this: (not much larger but a little).

 

I use a 24inch monitor so there should be every chance to see reasonable size thumbnails. I tried changing the resolution but it really didn't make much difference and pictures became a little harder to make out due to being ressed up. I think producing in Slideshow then moving on to Videowave is the best way forward.

[sknis]

That really is not much of a help in this case when I have 400 images taken by two different cameras. I still think starting off in slideshow is the answer.

 

One last suggesrtion. Change to disoplay to the minimum acceptable by the program 1024 by 768 just for the slide shows. BTW, what size monitor do you have?

 

Changing mine results in this: (not much larger but a little).

[FINGERS20]

Did you remember that if you hold your cursor over the thumbnail in storyline view that the name of the file will pop up? That may help some.

That really is not much of a help in this case when I have 400 images taken by two different cameras. I still think starting off in slideshow is the answer.

[sknis]

Did you remember that if you hold your cursor over the thumbnail in storyline view that the name of the file will pop up? That may help some.

[FINGERS20]

I understand a lot more than you think…

 

We will not reach an agreement on this and I can leave it at that.

 

Jim,

I think the only thing we can agree on is that we agree to disagree............

[Jim_Hardin]

 

 

Jim,

First off, let me just say that I may burn a DVD of photographs perhaps twice or three times in a year so speed of production is most certainly not an issue for me and the fact that Windows 7 DVD burner is slower than Roxio Creator 2010 is neither here nor there. I produce a DVD so people can view holiday shots on a TV screen. I don't burn DVD's for a living.

 

Secondly, I have looked at your screen grabs and you still have not understood the problem with Videowave regarding size on screen of the thumbnails. Larger thumbnails make it easier to shift the order round of photographs and video clips and yes, I know that means more scrolling around on screen. This equates to changing the views on a Windows folder from "large icons" to "extra large icons". This is the reason for starting off production in slideshow as one can choose how large or how small you prefer to view the images. This is especially important when you may have several photographs of the same view such as a panorama type shot before stitching or a series of high speed action shots.

 

Lastly, let me just say that if I thought Roxio Creator 2010 was a wonderful product then I would say so. But it's not. Explanations about what the various parts of the programme are for and just what they do are vague and just a touch confusing. If it were not the case then I wouldn't have felt compelled to enter this forum, and I am only trying to do something very basic, not edit a movie and insert music clips,dissolves and the like. Even a fairly close scrutiny of the user guide did not help me. I have just counted the number of applications bundled with Creator 2010 and that number is 13 !!..................and with no custom install available. I still think an overhaul is needed on the layout.

 

 

 

I understand a lot more than you think…

 

We will not reach an agreement on this and I can leave it at that.

 

[FINGERS20]

I put all 3 on the screen and there is not enough difference in the sizes to support your contentions…

 

 

Likewise I made a DVD in both Win DVD Maker and Roxio Slideshow/MyDVD.

 

When it came time to burn, Win DVD Maker was at 50% before I even started MyDVD but MyDVD was at 97% when WinDVD finished, so there is no doubt that Win DVD Maker is very slow.

 

The DVD's were the exact same quality, reporting 720 X 480 & 8 mbps.

 

You are of course free to use whatever you want but don't bash a product just because you haven't learned how to use it.

 

 

Jim,

First off, let me just say that I may burn a DVD of photographs perhaps twice or three times in a year so speed of production is most certainly not an issue for me and the fact that Windows 7 DVD burner is slower than Roxio Creator 2010 is neither here nor there. I produce a DVD so people can view holiday shots on a TV screen. I don't burn DVD's for a living.

 

Secondly, I have looked at your screen grabs and you still have not understood the problem with Videowave regarding size on screen of the thumbnails. Larger thumbnails make it easier to shift the order round of photographs and video clips and yes, I know that means more scrolling around on screen. This equates to changing the views on a Windows folder from "large icons" to "extra large icons". This is the reason for starting off production in slideshow as one can choose how large or how small you prefer to view the images. This is especially important when you may have several photographs of the same view such as a panorama type shot before stitching or a series of high speed action shots.

 

Lastly, let me just say that if I thought Roxio Creator 2010 was a wonderful product then I would say so. But it's not. Explanations about what the various parts of the programme are for and just what they do are vague and just a touch confusing. If it were not the case then I wouldn't have felt compelled to enter this forum, and I am only trying to do something very basic, not edit a movie and insert music clips,dissolves and the like. Even a fairly close scrutiny of the user guide did not help me. I have just counted the number of applications bundled with Creator 2010 and that number is 13 !!..................and with no custom install available. I still think an overhaul is needed on the layout.

 

 

[FINGERS20]

Preview screen not big enough for you?

 

Are you even in Storyline view?

 

 

You can also move the screen dividers around a little givving you more thumbnails to view.

Jim,

I think you have misunderstood the problem...............and yes, I am in storyline. The preview screen is not the problem. I am not a beginner at such matters. I shrunk the preview screen to its smallest size hoping that the thumbnail views of each individual photograph would increase in size but to no avail. Because the thumbnails are so small it makes moving round 404 images and video clips into a meaningful story that much more difficult. Unless there is a way in Videowave to make thumbnails bigger that I have missed? I don't want more thumbnails to view, I want less of them, and BIGGER!

[Jim_Hardin]

I have now managed to succesfully create a half decent quality DVD of my Alaska pictures to show to friends and family but my God what a convoluted, awkward, and difficult process it has proved to be!! Without the help of the forum I would still have been scratching my head over this one.

Method which works for me is to start off creating your project using slideshow and then use the tab on interface at the end (part 3 of project) to take you to "edit in Videowave". I find it much easier to move round files in slideshow to arrange pictures in the order you want rather than going direct to Videowave as there seems to be no way in Videowave to increase the size of thumbnails on the screen which makes arranging the order pretty tricky and a strain on the eyes, even with a 24inch monitor. Slideshow has a slider to increase the size of thumbnails on screen which makes life a lot easier! Why not arrange order of pictures in Windows first I hear you ask?

Not if you are running Windows 7.......and especially when two different cameras were used and one of the party forgot to change the clock on his compact so there was a 9 hour time difference! If you don't believe me about the difficulty of arranging files the way you want them just do a bit of googling on the subject.

And just to finish off my grumpy old man rant I think that a serious overhaul of the 2010 interface is required along with a much better user guide. Just as well I don't give up easily on these things. Anybody who thinks that burning DVD/CD is an easy thing to achieve...........dream on, dream on!!

Preview screen not big enough for you?

 

Are you even in Storyline view?

 

 

You can also move the screen dividers around a little givving you more thumbnails to view.

[FINGERS20]

When you create slideshow on a DVD that is to be played on a DVD player, it is turned into a DVD movie. File size is not important when you create the DVD, its the timelength of the slideshow that matters the most. A 4.7GB DVD can only hold 60 minutes of video at best quality. Slideshow is very basic and has limited features compared to using Videowave & myDVD. THey quality from either is pretty well identical provided to use the same output settings. Slideshow is for making a quick and simply project as is Photoshow.

 

I have now managed to succesfully create a half decent quality DVD of my Alaska pictures to show to friends and family but my God what a convoluted, awkward, and difficult process it has proved to be!! Without the help of the forum I would still have been scratching my head over this one.

Method which works for me is to start off creating your project using slideshow and then use the tab on interface at the end (part 3 of project) to take you to "edit in Videowave". I find it much easier to move round files in slideshow to arrange pictures in the order you want rather than going direct to Videowave as there seems to be no way in Videowave to increase the size of thumbnails on the screen which makes arranging the order pretty tricky and a strain on the eyes, even with a 24inch monitor. Slideshow has a slider to increase the size of thumbnails on screen which makes life a lot easier! Why not arrange order of pictures in Windows first I hear you ask?

Not if you are running Windows 7.......and especially when two different cameras were used and one of the party forgot to change the clock on his compact so there was a 9 hour time difference! If you don't believe me about the difficulty of arranging files the way you want them just do a bit of googling on the subject.

And just to finish off my grumpy old man rant I think that a serious overhaul of the 2010 interface is required along with a much better user guide. Just as well I don't give up easily on these things. Anybody who thinks that burning DVD/CD is an easy thing to achieve...........dream on, dream on!!

[bimicher]

I used both Slideshow and Photoshow to create a disc, which are the obvious and preferred programmes one is taken to on opening Creator 2010 and both programmes gave similarly poor results.........Never at any time either in the learning centre or on the instructions which I downloaded was there a mention of using anything else in the programme to create a DVD of photographs. Videowave to me suggests for use in creating movies and in fact is the application one is taken to on the home page for "Advanced Video Editing"! Not an obvious choice I think you will agree. However, I will try this method and report back.

 

 

When you create slideshow on a DVD that is to be played on a DVD player, it is turned into a DVD movie. File size is not important when you create the DVD, its the timelength of the slideshow that matters the most. A 4.7GB DVD can only hold 60 minutes of video at best quality. Slideshow is very basic and has limited features compared to using Videowave & myDVD. The quality from either is pretty well identical provided you use the same output settings. Slideshow is for making a quick and simply project as is Photoshow.

[grandpabruce]

I used both Slideshow and Photoshow to create a disc, which are the obvious and preferred programmes one is taken to on opening Creator 2010 and both programmes gave similarly poor results.........Never at any time either in the learning centre or on the instructions which I downloaded was there a mention of using anything else in the programme to create a DVD of photographs. Videowave to me suggests for use in creating movies and in fact is the application one is taken to on the home page for "Advanced Video Editing"! Not an obvious choice I think you will agree. However, I will try this method and report back.

 

WRONG! Those programs are NOT the preferred programs. The ones that you are going to try (VideoWave and MyDVD) are.

 

If you have problems/questions on how to use those two programs, come back and ask for some help.

[FINGERS20]

What program, in the suite, did you use to make your production? You should have used VideoWave (Edit Video-Advanced) to create it, and MyDVD (Create DVDs) to author and burn the VideoWave production.

 

In MyDVD, in the lower right portion of the screen, you have to change the Quality setting to High Quality (HQ) or Same As Original. In the case of a slide show, I would try the HQ setting.

 

The software defaults to Fit to Disc, which in previous versions, resulted in a trash outcome.

 

 

I used both Slideshow and Photoshow to create a disc, which are the obvious and preferred programmes one is taken to on opening Creator 2010 and both programmes gave similarly poor results.........Never at any time either in the learning centre or on the instructions which I downloaded was there a mention of using anything else in the programme to create a DVD of photographs. Videowave to me suggests for use in creating movies and in fact is the application one is taken to on the home page for "Advanced Video Editing"! Not an obvious choice I think you will agree. However, I will try this method and report back.

[grandpabruce]

I have been playing about trying to burn and play back on my TV photos I took in Alaska. Playback is not terribly good however as there is a severe amount of compression applied to the production. My 2.3 gig file with some 390 photographs has all of a sudden been shrunk down to something in the order of 90mb! No wonder the pictures looked poor on screen on my TV. Is there some way of keeping the resolution/file quality? By the way, Windows 7 DVD maker makes a much better job of things and the quality on playback is noticeably superior because file sizes are not mucked around with. Kind of makes purchase of Creator 2010 pointless.

 

What program, in the suite, did you use to make your production? You should have used VideoWave (Edit Video-Advanced) to create it, and MyDVD (Create DVDs) to author and burn the VideoWave production.

 

In MyDVD, in the lower right portion of the screen, you have to change the Quality setting to High Quality (HQ) or Same As Original. In the case of a slide show, I would try the HQ setting.

 

The software defaults to Fit to Disc, which in previous versions, resulted in a trash outcome.