TOAST 10.0.6 Fit-to-DVD not working?

[wkpn]

I have searched these boards looking for some notice about this issue, to no avail.

 

Since update from 10.0.5 to 10.0.6, the fit-to-DVD feature does not work, so DVD images are not compressed to fit into a single-layer DVD. I hoped the just released 10.0.6a would fix it, but it did not.

 

Am I the only one having these problem? Somehow, I find it odd no one else has commented on it.

 

 

[firenhancer]

I have searched these boards looking for some notice about this issue, to no avail.

 

Since update from 10.0.5 to 10.0.6, the fit-to-DVD feature does not work, so DVD images are not compressed to fit into a single-layer DVD. I hoped the just released 10.0.6a would fix it, but it did not.

 

Am I the only one having these problem? Somehow, I find it odd no one else has commented on it.

 

 

And are you selecting SL media over DL before saving it as image?

[wkpn]

And are you selecting SL media over DL before saving it as image?

 

Sure, TOAST itself asks you to choose SL or DL before proceeding to create the image, so there's really no way to miss that step.

 

In case I did not make myself clear here, previous 10.0.5 version showed no problem in this regard, other than the well known issue about TS video folders apparently not being recognized when added. Actually, I keep 10.0.5 installed in my HD, and just by ignoring that false warning I can get my DVD images properly compressed to fit a single-layer 4.3GB disc.

 

This issue only appeared with 10.0.6 arrival.

 

Edited March 11, 2010 by wkpn

[pruthe]

Looks like something to be fixed and may need to use 10.0.5 for fit-toDVD until then. I encountered problem trying to use 10.0.6 to compress DL image into SL image. Error message said something about not enough space.

 

[firenhancer]

Sure, TOAST itself asks you to choose SL or DL before proceeding to create the image, so there's really no way to miss that step.

 

In case I did not make myself clear here, previous 10.0.5 version showed no problem in this regard, other than the well known issue about TS video folders apparently not being recognized when added. Actually, I keep 10.0.5 installed in my HD, and just by ignoring that false warning I can get my DVD images properly compressed to fit a single-layer 4.3GB disc.

 

This issue only appeared with 10.0.6 arrival.

 

 

I see a 10.0.6a update, not sure if you want to give it a try.

[wkpn]

I see a 10.0.6a update, not sure if you want to give it a try.

 

Apparently, the 10.0.6a only fixed some Tivo related issues, but the fit-to-DVD issue remains.

[firenhancer]

Apparently, the 10.0.6a only fixed some Tivo related issues, but the fit-to-DVD issue remains.

 

Thanks for the update. Oh well I can only assume 10.0.7 is being worked upon to hash out other issues. Till then it would be worth retaining other versions

[tsantee]

I just used Fit-to-DVD to Copy from a DL-sized .toast disc image to a SL DVD with !0.0.6. Worked fine. Using new iMac with Snow Leopard.

[wkpn]

I just used Fit-to-DVD to Copy from a DL-sized .toast disc image to a SL DVD with !0.0.6. Worked fine. Using new iMac with Snow Leopard.

 

As I mentioned before, I find it odd that no one else has commented on this, as it would be if problem was widespread.

 

I am running Mac Os X 10.5.8, and trying to fit-to-DVD when creating a new DVD image from a previously extracted VIDEO TS folder. It used to work fine with Toast 10.0.5, and actually still does with 10.0.5, but not with 10.0.6 or the recent 10.0.6a revision.

 

I have tried using a different user account, to no avail.

 

I have Snow Leopard installed on an external HD for try-out, so I will try installing Toast 10.0.6 there.

[tsantee]

As I mentioned before, I find it odd that no one else has commented on this, as it would be if problem was widespread.

 

I am running Mac Os X 10.5.8, and trying to fit-to-DVD when creating a new DVD image from a previously extracted VIDEO TS folder. It used to work fine with Toast 10.0.5, and actually still does with 10.0.5, but not with 10.0.6 or the recent 10.0.6a revision.

 

I have tried using a different user account, to no avail.

 

I have Snow Leopard installed on an external HD for try-out, so I will try installing Toast 10.0.6 there.

Is your Mac running OS 10.5.8 a G5? The versions of Toast after 10.0.3 don't display any text in video DVDs authored by Toast on a G5 Mac so I'm wondering if this is another case where fixing things for Snow Leopard on Intel Macs broke something with PPC Macs.

[wkpn]

Is your Mac running OS 10.5.8 a G5? The versions of Toast after 10.0.3 don't display any text in video DVDs authored by Toast on a G5 Mac so I'm wondering if this is another case where fixing things for Snow Leopard on Intel Macs broke something with PPC Macs.

 

No, sorry, I should have been more thorough and include all that information in my first post.

 

So I'm running Toast 10.0.6a under MacOS 10.5.8 on a 2.4GHz Intel Core Duo iMac.

 

I have yet to try it on my Snow Leopard-running external HD.

Edited March 13, 2010 by wkpn

[pruthe]

Looks like something to be fixed and may need to use 10.0.5 for fit-toDVD until then. I encountered problem trying to use 10.0.6 to compress DL image into SL image. Error message said something about not enough space.

 

 

I tried doing exact same thing again today and for some reason it worked this time. Not sure why had problem first time. If happens again, will get a screen shot of error message. Using Toast 10.0.6 and Mac 10.6.2 on Mac Pro (Intel).

[wkpn]

I'm back from my Snow Leopard-running external HD, reporting on my trial.

 

Well, no luck.

 

I tried both the 10.0.6 and the 10.0.6a, to the same results as in my main Leopard HD. Even though I tick the "fit-to-DVD" feature, even though I choose to write the new image to fit into a single-layer disc, the image I obtain is the same size as the original DVD folder.

 

What's more, I tried discarding additional audio tracks, or choosing just the main video file to be present in the to-be-generated DVD image, to no avail.

 

The resultant disk image is the same size as the DVD Folder I am using as source.

[pruthe]

Are you using Toast 10.0.6 Copy->Image File function and passing a DL disk image with Fit to DVD selected? Then do Save As Disk Image for SL disk. I passed 8.1GB DL image file and was reduced to 4.3GB SL image file. I burned this SL image onto SL disk later.

[tsantee]

I'm back from my Snow Leopard-running external HD, reporting on my trial.

 

Well, no luck.

 

I tried both the 10.0.6 and the 10.0.6a, to the same results as in my main Leopard HD. Even though I tick the "fit-to-DVD" feature, even though I choose to write the new image to fit into a single-layer disc, the image I obtain is the same size as the original DVD folder.

 

What's more, I tried discarding additional audio tracks, or choosing just the main video file to be present in the to-be-generated DVD image, to no avail.

 

The resultant disk image is the same size as the DVD Folder I am using as source.

You may already have answered this but help me know exactly which settings you're using. My understanding is you are using the VIDEO_TS Folders setting. The problem occurs whether or not you choose to burn the entire contents to a single-layer disc or de-select some of the contents. Saving as a Disc Image also does not engage the fit-to-DVD process. It works with 10.0.5 but not with 10.0.6 in OS 10.5 and 10.6. Do I have this all correct? What happens if you choose the DL-sized disc image file created by Toast using the Image File setting in the Copy window and attempt to burn that to SL DVD? Is the "Use Fit-to-DVD Video Compression" checked in the Copy window?

[wkpn]

Are you using Toast 10.0.6 Copy->Image File function and passing a DL disk image with Fit to DVD selected? Then do Save As Disk Image for SL disk. I passed 8.1GB DL image file and was reduced to 4.3GB SL image file. I burned this SL image onto SL disk later.

 

No, I am not trying to recompress a DL-sized image file into a SL-sized one, I am trying to create a SL-sized image from a VIDEO_TS folder from a previously ripped DL DVD.

 

That's the usual process I follow, and I have no problem doing that with Toast 10.0.5.

 

Creating a DL-sized image and then compressing it into a SL-sized one would add an unnecessary step (at least, it was unnecessary until Toast 10.0.6).

 

You may already have answered this but help me know exactly which settings you're using. My understanding is you are using the VIDEO_TS Folders setting.

 

Yes.

 

The problem occurs whether or not you choose to burn the entire contents to a single-layer disc or de-select some of the contents.

 

That's correct.

 

Saving as a Disc Image also does not engage the fit-to-DVD process.

 

No, it doesn't, even though the "Fit-to-DVD" option it's ticked.

 

It works with 10.0.5 but not with 10.0.6 in OS 10.5 and 10.6.

 

That's right, and neither with Toast 10.0.6a.

 

Do I have this all correct? What happens if you choose the DL-sized disc image file created by Toast using the Image File setting in the Copy window and attempt to burn that to SL DVD?

 

I have not tried that, but it was never necessary with Toast 10.0.5. The compression happened during the disk image creation, so the resultant image was already SL-sized.

 

Is the "Use Fit-to-DVD Video Compression" checked in the Copy window?

 

As stated before, yes, it is.

 

Thank you both for trying to help.

Edited March 15, 2010 by wkpn

[pruthe]

I took my 8.1GB disk image, mounted it, then dragged VIDEO_TS file into Toast 10.0.6 Video function window for VIDEO_TS Folder and requested Save As Disk Image of SL file with Fit to DVD set. When I looked at SL disk image file that was created, size is was still 8.1GB. So I had the same problem you did. I would guess that if you take extra step of making a DL disk image and use COPY function like I did in previous post, then it will work. Or you can continue using 10.0.5 as you are doing now until problem is fixed. One additional thing that I noticed is that when using Copy function and clicking Fit to DVD, the estimated file size changes from DL to SL size. The estimated file size does not change in the Video function when Fit to DVD is set and still shows DL size. Another thing you might want to try is to do a Disk Copy within Copy function of your mounted DL disk, then use Fit to DVD and Save as SL Disk Image. I didn't have time to see if that would work.

Edited March 15, 2010 by pruthe

[tsantee]

This is puzzling. It is working for me. This time I used the VIDEO_TS folders setting in the Video window, added a DL-sized VIDEO_TS folder, inserted a SL disc and clicked the burn button. Toast 10.0.6 proceeded to the compression stage and then burned and verified the disc. This is on a new iMac with OS 10.6.2.

[pruthe]

Must be problem with saving disk image while in VIDEO/VIDEO_TS folders function. I did burn of same mounted 8.1GB disk image VIDEO_TS folder to SL disk with Fit to DVD set and it successfully burned SL disk. Then did Save to Disk Image requesting SL disk with Fit to DVD set and created disk image size was 8.1GB. This was on Mac Pro (Intel) with Toast 10.0.6 and MacOS 10.6.2.

Edited March 16, 2010 by pruthe

[swheatle]

"The resultant disk image is the same size as the DVD Folder I am using as source"

 

I noticed this too when using 10.0.6. The single layer disc images are the same size as the original source. They burn correctly in Toast though. This sucks for me as I use an old 60GB drive to hold the disk images and now I often can only queue half as many jobs because the compressed disc image sizes are not compressed.

 

On a possibly related note I noticed that while writing the image to disk it pauses for several minutes at 17% or 31% or 73% but eventually finishes the write correctly and I can burn the disc images to single layer discs.

 

Mac mini Core 2 duo with 2GB ram with MacOS 10.6.2

[billyam]

I am having this same problem. I have the Fit-to-DVD checked.

DVD SL as the media option.

 

And yet the disc img I get is the same 6.5GB I started with.

 

This is very upsetting as I have just downloaded and installed 10.0.7. Just for this purpose.

 

Running on 10.6.4 Snow Leopard.

 

Looking for any solutions.

 

Bill

[tsantee]

I am having this same problem. I have the Fit-to-DVD checked.

DVD SL as the media option.

 

And yet the disc img I get is the same 6.5GB I started with.

 

This is very upsetting as I have just downloaded and installed 10.0.7. Just for this purpose.

 

Running on 10.6.4 Snow Leopard.

 

Looking for any solutions.

 

Bill

Fit to DVD is not working in Toast 10.0.7 unless you allow the entire contents of the VIDEO_TS folder to be included. If you deselect anything it does not work. It was working in previous versions of Toast 10.

 

There is a workaround. Choose DVD video as the format in the Video window. Place your VIDEO_TS folder on the desktop or in the Movies folder. Choose DVD with the top button of the Toast Media Browser. Double click on what appears in the browser window to see the individual titles included in the VIDEO_TS folder. Drag what you want to the Toast video window. You now can set up a menu the way you want. Choose Save as Disc Image. When that is done burn it to single-layer disc using the Image File setting in the Copy window.

[billyam]

Fit to DVD is not working in Toast 10.0.7

 

There is a workaround....

 

tsantee,

 

I appreciate your help. And as I am very new to Toast (I somehow managed to work around it for 8 years of video work!) it is nice to get a bit of a tutorial.

I am posting this response only because I am concerned that this problem get fixed.

 

Here's what has happened:

 

I have ripped a DVD (I have the rights to the film) to Desktop. It is a DUal layer, clocking in at 5.64 GB.

 

I followed your steps, and when I grab the Video_TS folder into the DVD_Video area, it shows the proper number of titles. BUT - it shows the DVD weighing in at 3.1 GB

 

I thought that this was an example of "working around" the bug. But when I go through with the Make Disk Image... The Image results in the original 5.64 GB.

 

I understand that you are only trying to be helpful (and you have helped me find my way around the interface, etc.).

 

I have alternative methods to accomplish what I need to do. But I am more puzzled than upset (by a hair) by this anomalous activity.

 

Also... in your first reply to me, you mentioned that the Video_TS ->Shrink function is not working if you make any modifications to the Folder. But I am making none. Using the VIDEO_TS function indeed shows the folder as 5.64 GB. But of course this does NOT do the fit-toDVD function at all.

 

Again, thanks for your reply. When I have time, I will try to kick this up to Roxio.

 

Bill

[tsantee]

tsantee,

 

I appreciate your help. And as I am very new to Toast (I somehow managed to work around it for 8 years of video work!) it is nice to get a bit of a tutorial.

I am posting this response only because I am concerned that this problem get fixed.

 

Here's what has happened:

 

I have ripped a DVD (I have the rights to the film) to Desktop. It is a DUal layer, clocking in at 5.64 GB.

 

I followed your steps, and when I grab the Video_TS folder into the DVD_Video area, it shows the proper number of titles. BUT - it shows the DVD weighing in at 3.1 GB

 

I thought that this was an example of "working around" the bug. But when I go through with the Make Disk Image... The Image results in the original 5.64 GB.

 

I understand that you are only trying to be helpful (and you have helped me find my way around the interface, etc.).

 

I have alternative methods to accomplish what I need to do. But I am more puzzled than upset (by a hair) by this anomalous activity.

 

Also... in your first reply to me, you mentioned that the Video_TS ->Shrink function is not working if you make any modifications to the Folder. But I am making none. Using the VIDEO_TS function indeed shows the folder as 5.64 GB. But of course this does NOT do the fit-toDVD function at all.

 

Again, thanks for your reply. When I have time, I will try to kick this up to Roxio.

 

Bill

When the VIDEO_TS folder is added to the VIDEO_TS Folders setting in the Video window I've had no difficulty with fit-to-DVD when not options are selected but get an error message is any option is selected. Others have reported the same result with 10.0.7. If you are having a different experience do a test with a different VIDEO_TS folder. I'll reserve my comment about what I think of releasing a version with this bug.

 

I've seen VIDEO_TS folders that confuse Toast about their contents. Dragging specific titles from the Media Browser to the main window should overcome this because it extracts the video file as a single VOB into the Roxio Converted Items folder. I can't explain why that didn't happen in your case.

 

It is also possible to drag a VIDEO_TS folder directly to the Toast Video window with DVD video selected as the format and Toast oftentimes presents the titles correctly. But sometimes that doesn't work which is why I suggest using the Media Browser.

[MacGoddess]

I am running Toast 10.0.8 and have had the same problem. Sometimes it does compress the video using the VIDEO_TS folder and other times it doesn't compress it. I am in the habit of first saving as a Disc Image then burning it if it is good. I am running the latest version of

snow leopard 10.6.5 on a MacPro.

 

 

 

 

 

I have searched these boards looking for some notice about this issue, to no avail.

 

Since update from 10.0.5 to 10.0.6, the fit-to-DVD feature does not work, so DVD images are not compressed to fit into a single-layer DVD. I hoped the just released 10.0.6a would fix it, but it did not.

 

Am I the only one having these problem? Somehow, I find it odd no one else has commented on it.

 

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