BluRay burning compatibility

[Ilovm]

Hi everybody,

I am new on this forum, as I am a potential new user of bluray burner.

Until now I used toast 10 and MAC and I ma happy with that.

Next I need to go to bluray for my own HD movies produced with FinalCutPro)

I am told that most of the time bluray disks that are burnt from computers do not play properly on home bluray players...

Is that true ????

What is behind that ? the way people burn ? If yes...any advise before I buy a burner ????

Thanks in advance

Ivan

[WayneH]

I think most of the blu-ray disks (BD-r) that I've burnt so far (maybe two dozen) with Toast play properly on my Sony blu-ray disk player. (Note: I sometimes burn test versions on BD-re to make sure things basically work.) The BD brands I've successfully used so far are Verbatim, Ritek, and Sony. I've had problems burning using Philips. I have 2 internal LG Blu-ray burners in a Mac Pro (Intel). I've also successfully burnt blu-ray format to DVD-r. I use Final Cut Express 4.01 for editing.

May I ask, how do you flow from FCE to blu-ray on DVD? I've made it work (from iMovie) but now I'm trying to get better results more reliably. What do you export from FCE? What do you feed to Toast? Do you let Toast do the encoding?

[pruthe]

May I ask, how do you flow from FCE to blu-ray on DVD? I've made it work (from iMovie) but now I'm trying to get better results more reliably. What do you export from FCE? What do you feed to Toast? Do you let Toast do the encoding?

Most of my HD burning experience is with BD-Rs, although I've done a few BD formats onto DVD (last using Toast 9, I think). I used to use the old iMovie HD to edit, but it was too buggy/limited for me and I moved onto FCE. All the video I've edited in FCE is from Sony consumer HD cameras. I have an HDV camera and a couple of AVCHD hard drive cameras. I usually use iMovie (7.1.4) to read in the video from the camera into default AIC format. (For some reason, I had a problem using FCE to read in video, but used iMovie successfully and stuck with that.) Then I bring AIC movie files into FCE for editing. I usually set up FCE for 1920x1080-60i. My newer cameras are that format already. After edit, I export to Quicktime movie (not self-contained), including audio/video and chapter markers. I don't normally do a Quicktime conversion. I then bring generated .mov file into Toast 10 Video function for Blu-ray video, select a 16x9 template, use Best video quality, include scene menus for video, plus set up other basic fields. Then create a disc image in BD format for BD-R (or DVD). Toast does the encoding. If disc image is created successfully, I'll burn using Toast 10 Copy function. Note: I've had some 3 hour FCE projects that take over 24 hours to encode in Toast.

 

I don't consider myself knowledgeable in any of this. Maybe there are better ways to do it (please let know if any suggestions), but this approach has worked fairly well for me so far. I don't think I've had any major audio sync problems (knock on wood) using this flow, video quality is good, and discs created seem to play well in my (old) Sony Blu-ray player (S-301). Haven't tried playing my discs in any other Blu-ray players yet. I'm thinking about getting another player soon to try this out.

 

Hope this helps. Good luck.

[WayneH]

Most of my HD burning experience is with BD-Rs, although I've done a few BD formats onto DVD (last using Toast 9, I think). I used to use the old iMovie HD to edit, but it was too buggy/limited for me and I moved onto FCE. All the video I've edited in FCE is from Sony consumer HD cameras. I have an HDV camera and a couple of AVCHD hard drive cameras. I usually use iMovie (7.1.4) to read in the video from the camera into default AIC format. (For some reason, I had a problem using FCE to read in video, but used iMovie successfully and stuck with that.) Then I bring AIC movie files into FCE for editing. I usually set up FCE for 1920x1080-60i. My newer cameras are that format already. After edit, I export to Quicktime movie (not self-contained), including audio/video and chapter markers. I don't normally do a Quicktime conversion. I then bring generated .mov file into Toast 10 Video function for Blu-ray video, select a 16x9 template, use Best video quality, include scene menus for video, plus set up other basic fields. Then create a disc image in BD format for BD-R (or DVD). Toast does the encoding. If disc image is created successfully, I'll burn using Toast 10 Copy function. Note: I've had some 3 hour FCE projects that take over 24 hours to encode in Toast.

 

I don't consider myself knowledgeable in any of this. Maybe there are better ways to do it (please let know if any suggestions), but this approach has worked fairly well for me so far. I don't think I've had any major audio sync problems (knock on wood) using this flow, video quality is good, and discs created seem to play well in my (old) Sony Blu-ray player (S-301). Haven't tried playing my discs in any other Blu-ray players yet. I'm thinking about getting another player soon to try this out.

 

Hope this helps. Good luck.

Thanks, this is essentially the process I've used with some success. I've used an AIC+PCM export from iMovie, let Toast 10 do the encoding, and the DVD plays fine in my Sony Blu-ray player. But I'm trying to get a workflow that 1) might give a faster and/or better encoding by using Compressor instead of the Toast encoder, and 2) give me a way to include 5.1 audio. No luck so far.

[WayneH]

Hi everybody,

I am new on this forum, as I am a potential new user of bluray burner.

Until now I used toast 10 and MAC and I ma happy with that.

Next I need to go to bluray for my own HD movies produced with FinalCutPro)

I am told that most of the time bluray disks that are burnt from computers do not play properly on home bluray players...

Is that true ????

What is behind that ? the way people burn ? If yes...any advise before I buy a burner ????

Thanks in advance

Ivan

I can't answer most of your questions, but you should know you can put ~35 minutes of HD video onto a DVD that will play nicely on a blu-ray player. In my case, my Sony BDP-S350 plays the disk and I know many others have also had success.

[pruthe]

I think most of the blu-ray disks (BD-r) that I've burnt so far (maybe two dozen) with Toast play properly on my Sony blu-ray disk player. (Note: I sometimes burn test versions on BD-re to make sure things basically work.) The BD brands I've successfully used so far are Verbatim, Ritek, and Sony. I've had problems burning using Philips. I have 2 internal LG Blu-ray burners in a Mac Pro (Intel). I've also successfully burnt blu-ray format to DVD-r. I use Final Cut Express 4.01 for editing.