Tivo squashed

[Mighty]

This is my first attempt at burning a Tivo file to DVD. Tivo Desktop transfered it fine. Plays in that app fine.

 

When I fire up VideoWave I can add the video to the project. But it displays pixel-for-pixel, so it's 480x480, with black bars on either side of a 4:3 display. I don't see any option to change the aspect ratio of the clip. I even looked for an effect to stretch it, and I must have overlooked it.

 

My hardware should be fine for this. I have a new gaming rig that I bought last month. AMD Athlon 965 x4, 8 gig RAM, ATI Radeon 5770 w/1 gig, 1 TB drive.

 

It feels like I'm missing something simple and obvious. Hopefully someone can point me at it?

 

Thanks,

 

Drake

[sknis]

Just uploaded a clip that demonstrates the problem.

 

http://www.mightydrake.com/Files/RoxioTest.TiVo

 

Link doesn't work.

[cdanteek]

Same thing here...

 

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TiVo

 

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[Mighty]

I think because you have Roxio installed, IE is probably trying to open the file using the association. The machine I'm on right now doesn't have Roxio installed and Firefox pops up a box asking what I want to do with the file.

 

Right-click on it and choose "Save link as..." or I think it's "Save shortcut as..." in IE.

 

After I post this I'll zip it and upload it again and post another link. Should be there in 15 mins or so.

 

Drake

[Mighty]

Here's a link to the zip http://www.mightydrake.com/Files/RoxioTest.zip

[ggrussell]

I don't see any option to change the aspect ratio of the clip. I even looked for an effect to stretch it, and I must have overlooked it.

There is no option to force the aspect ratio. Use GSpot or Media Info to check out the file. Do you know what the Tivo file resolution should be?

[sknis]

Here's a link to the zip http://www.mightydrake.com/Files/RoxioTest.zip

 

It is a DRM pprotected file and Video Wave will not open it.

[Mighty]

During my searching I had read that a Tivo2 recording in Best Quality was 480x480. So, I think that number is correct? Maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong?

 

I'm not familiar with GSpot nor Media Info. What are those and where might I find them?

 

I just used the Win7 Snip tool to grab the image displayed in VideoWave. I had thought it looked a little pixelated. Turns out it's scaling it a little to display it in that window, which explains the pixelation if it's using a simple pixel replication algorithm. But what I also learned is that the aspect ratio isn't 1:1 like I thought it was. The image it grabbed is 516x600 (I may be off by a pixel or two when I grabbed.) So, it's distorted even more than I would expect if it were displaying 480x480.

 

Drake

[ggrussell]

If Tivo is using 480x480, it is probably a non-square pixel format and should be displayed at 640x480 or 720x480. Almost sounds like the older SVCD format.

 

GSpot and Media Info are shareware/freeware that will give you information about a video file. Media Info supports more formats like MPEG4 and H264. Can find them with any search engine like Google.

[Mighty]

*heavy sigh*

 

Is there anyone reading this thread who is successful using Roxio to bring in any Tivo files? And more specifically, a Tivo2 file? Is it that the newer Tivos record in a more standard size?

 

Alternatively, I'm willing to give up a generation in transcoding the clip. Are there really no effects that will stretch (hopefully with a decent scaling algorithm) a clip to whatever size I want?

 

Anyone have any other ideas?

 

Drake

[Mighty]

Yeah, I think I read that on some other forums that it sounded like an SVCD format.

 

But, since the .tivo file format is explicitly supported, and the Tivo device is explicitly supported, I'm surprised that it's not handled automagically. Is there anyone here who has experience getting a Tivo2-generated file into VideoWave and onto a DVD?

 

Oh, I didn't say this specifically before, but the reason I know it's 480x480 is the clip properties says that.

 

Drake

[Mighty]

A few lines from MediaInfo:

 

Width : 480 pixels

Height : 480 pixels

Display aspect ratio : 0.889

 

Anyone have any ideas why VideoWave would ignore the aspect ratio?

 

Drake

[ggrussell]

If you would like to post a 2 or 3 min clip on YouSendIt or some other file sharing service, we could try it out on our systems for you.

[sknis]

*heavy sigh*

 

Is there anyone reading this thread who is successful using Roxio to bring in any Tivo files? And more specifically, a Tivo2 file? Is it that the newer Tivos record in a more standard size?

 

Alternatively, I'm willing to give up a generation in transcoding the clip. Are there really no effects that will stretch (hopefully with a decent scaling algorithm) a clip to whatever size I want?

 

Anyone have any other ideas?

 

Drake

 

How to's on any DRM protected files are no-nos on this site. NO one will help. You can load another file that is not DRM protected and give it another shot. Start another thread with the highlight information from this one.

[Mighty]

Just uploaded a clip that demonstrates the problem.

 

http://www.mightydrake.com/Files/RoxioTest.TiVo