Audio Programs

[greenjeans]

Hi. I'm brand new here. I rarely get online, anyway, but had some questions I got a ticket for this morning. I have not had a reply, and have spent all day reading the posts. I was just reading one when I got very interested in answering your answer. I don't know who wrote the problem and who wrote the answer, and in signing in to join, I lost it.

 

Anyway, it was about the cd burning program doubling songs. Yes, I, too have experienced that problem, though only once and in a little different way. I was finally burning three albums I had recorded myself many years ago on cassette (using Tascam 8-track, then Cakewalk AudioPro on the computer. One of the songs got tagged onto another song, and then that same song was in its proper place right after. I had a real hard time after burning several cds (and finding the problem) in getting that wav file separated back into 2, and then getting rid of the one. I'm sure it was my own fault in not understanding just how the program worked, as other files kept disappearing and appearing.

 

What I have experienced in doubling still may be a problem with me, but I know none of these programs has adequate documentation for people like me to even understand some of the terminology used in the blogs. Nevertheless, here is just one of the many oddities I have experienced using the Creator 2009. In working with wav files from old records (and obtaining those is another blog altogether) in Sound Editor, I have had the file double itself in length by actually putting 2 of the same files together. This has happened numerous times. Though I bought the program only to run the usb analog download for video, and to record my records onto cd, I actually rarely use the audio functions anymore because I have had such trouble using this whole suite. I bought this computer (HP Pavillion dv 6000 laptop, 32 bit, 2GBRAM, SP2, VISTA Home Prem) specifically for music and video editing. The Roxio Basic v9 that came on it never worked (the WMM and disc burner almost immediately stopped, and the wireless internet function was somehow disabled until last fall.) I'm not complaining, but it has been an uphill battle. What I know about computers comes from trial and error and having a Compac (Win 95) crash almost every day. I have probably reinstalled more programs than I've worked on. I've been mainly (and still am) editing on the Adobe Premiere 6 which is still my favorite editing program. I needed a way to transfer avi files from the HDD cameras their manufacturers don't see fit to put firewire on. As you know, the downgraded quality of making mpeg 2 into avi is not acceptable (And Premiere will not accept the speed of these new mpeg 2 files). I then put my edited video onto mini-DV tape (through firewire) and burn on stand- alone machines (again firewire). I wreck plenty of DVDs in that process as well, but not as many as on the computer. It is a better quality than the avi DVDs I have burned on the computer. If there isn't fancy editing to be done with the mpeg files, I will try to burn them directly on the computer when I can, until I get fed up with wrecking too many DVDs that haven't finished burning, that have weird audio problems, that won't play audio on my friends' old DVD players, etc. Then I go back to downloading s-video avi files.

 

I know this long story doesn't sound like a question, and it wasn't intended to be, but since I'm here: I have had problems with downloading music. I'm not sure I have the right usb driver, and I lost that thread hours ago. I can't even download with the Capture Audio function at all from the Creator 2009 (Special Edition). I have to capture video, then dump the blank video, keeping the wav file. This means the video camera has to be plugged in originally, though once it all begins to capture, I can turn the camera off. It is the oddest thing of all. But then, the wave files speed up and slow down. I know it is not the record player as it does this with tapes, and even with avi files. This is not a major problem with most videos except when it's video of musical groups, and also with final productions (on which I always add music) if I am going to burn on the computer. It is a major problem with record transfer. I have read the directions over and over, but cannot get the USB connector to download pure wav files. When that yellow RCA plug is not connected, there is no sound coming through the USB device. I know it's not the USB device itself, either, unless they're all defective in that batch because I bought the whole kit-and-caboodle twice (gave the extra to my brother later) just to try out the other USB device.

 

I will not be back again tonight, but will try to see what's on here tomorrow.

 

Thanx, Greenjeans

[greenjeans]

No qualities are lost when transferring files to an external drive. The files on the external drive will be identical to the source files.

 

 

Thank you, myguggi. Thank you all so much. I have learned a lot. I am signing off on this thread.

 

God bless you all! greenjeans

 

 

P.S. How do I turn off e-mail notification?

[bimicher]

Thank you, myguggi. Thank you all so much. I have learned a lot. I am signing off on this thread.

 

God bless you all! greenjeans

 

 

P.S. How do I turn off e-mail notification?

 

In your myControl/Email settings uncheck th e-mail notifications.

[sknis]

I moved this post from EMC 9 to here and sent the OP a p.m. suggesting that the OP update to SP4.

[greenjeans]

Thank you again for your e-mail. As I responded in reply to that, I already have the current service pack installed, and think it may be an issue of reinstallation as far as the recent loss of functionality is concerned. However, the service pack never cleared up the problem I described in my first posting. As it did not clear up many other issues.

 

I know one of you Gurus will probably tell me I should go back to a desktop, and I may have to do that at the loss of much of the processing speed I gained in moving to this computer. I will try some other things first. Thank you. Greenjeans

[greenjeans]

No tickets here. Those are for Roxio Tech Support and we are user support; non-funded except for the web site.

 

Thanks again, sknis. My reason for the question was it seemed to be indicated that Sonic Boom was a Roxio tech.

 

 

I never have understood where exactly to find the threads you advised me to read, I assume in regards to order of installation. I just viewed the new posts at the top of the page, but they are too new, now. I know this sounds like a stupid question, but as I said before I have trouble navigating here. Even now that I am a little clearer, I'm not sure.

 

 

Should I go back to the page for Creator 2009? I did get the program reinstalled before myguggi came on. And it was the restore point in Reg Cure that enabled me to do that. Now I have the registry backed to the hilt! If I run into problems again, I will follow Sonic Boom's advice, but it seems better to leave well enough alone, now. Barring any further advice in the next few minutes, I will try downloading and installing the SP4 again, then the usb capture device. It seems the most logical thing at this point.

 

Thanks, greenjeans

 

 

 

 

[greenjeans]

Thanks again, sknis. My reason for the question was it seemed to be indicated that Sonic Boom was a Roxio tech.

 

 

I never have understood where exactly to find the threads you advised me to read, I assume in regards to order of installation. I just viewed the new posts at the top of the page, but they are too new, now. I know this sounds like a stupid question, but as I said before I have trouble navigating here. Even now that I am a little clearer, I'm not sure.

 

 

Should I go back to the page for Creator 2009? I did get the program reinstalled before myguggi came on. And it was the restore point in Reg Cure that enabled me to do that. Now I have the registry backed to the hilt! If I run into problems again, I will follow Sonic Boom's advice, but it seems better to leave well enough alone, now. Barring any further advice in the next few minutes, I will try downloading and installing the SP4 again, then the usb capture device. It seems the most logical thing at this point.

 

Thanks, greenjeans

 

Just back briefly to say I'm reinstalled. I only had time to check out the video capture, not the audio. The usb installer did find my upgrade download and automatically added that, too. Yeah! So at least I'm back to where I started. I'll be back later with info on the audio. Thanks!

 

BTW: it may be possible some people don't get back with thanks because they can't figure out how. I had logged out this time (which I had not done recently for fear of not getting back), and did take a little while to find this again. At least I knew the general path this time.Thanks.

[ogdens]

Just back briefly to say I'm reinstalled. I only had time to check out the video capture, not the audio. The usb installer did find my upgrade download and automatically added that, too. Yeah! So at least I'm back to where I started. I'll be back later with info on the audio. Thanks!

 

BTW: it may be possible some people don't get back with thanks because they can't figure out how. I had logged out this time (which I had not done recently for fear of not getting back), and did take a little while to find this again. At least I knew the general path this time.Thanks.

 

 

This forum site has been acting up for weeks. It works ok for a bit then sloooooows down.

 

Roxio is aware of it.

 

 

 

 

[Sonic Boom]

Try this.

 

1. Copy all the files from the disc to a folder on your hard drive

2. Download and extract this file to the folder (Replace the existing setup.exe)

http://www.dutran.com/Roxio/setup.zip

3. Run the batch file CleanSystem.bat. It will prompt you to uninstall

4. Run through the uninstallation steps to uninstall Creator. Reboot machine

5. Run setup.exe and reinstall

 

[greenjeans]

This forum site has been acting up for weeks. It works ok for a bit then sloooooows down.

 

Roxio is aware of it.

 

 

Thanks for the info, ogdens.

 

I have tried using the audio capture again. It still doesn't work with the usb device and only the stereo RCA plugs connected.

 

 

I even tried unplugging the device, just using stereo RCA to mini phone directly into the computer mic jack. Even this method of line-in doesn't work. What did happen was that the built-in computer mic registered sound (unheard, but I know that mic will record) but only on the left channel. The line-in didn't do anything but change the meter from registering stereo to that left channel alone. And none of the sound was coming from the source. It was from noises I was making. A light suddenly dawns as to why avi files captured with the usb device only seem to have a left stereo channel (or only one channel, anyway) when I edit them on Adobe Premiere and finally onto DVD. (See the next paragraph.) I never have that problem when using firewire for capture into Premiere, probably because it bypasses all the Vista stuff. I will have to remember to double the wav files when the avi files have come from the HDD cameras, and pan them. Not the same as true stereo, but better than nothing.

 

 

I have had results in the past with using an external mic plugged in to the computer, and recording "live by air" from the speakers of a boom box. It works, but of course, isn't the best quality, and the room has to be utterly quiet. I realize, now, the problem is either the sound card, the Vista, or both. The sound card (Conexant) doesn't seem to have much in the way of options. The Roxio "Recording Setup Guide" (in the LP and Tape Assistant program) does say in step 2 that Vista doesn't have an option for setting "Input". It seems to not have any line input at all. And this on an "entertainment" computer.

 

So unless anyone has any bright ideas, I guess I'm back to capturing avi and dumping the video part, or using a mic in a quiet room.

 

Thank you all so much! I'm certainly going away with another week's experience and some new knowledge.

 

greenjeans

 

[greenjeans]

Thanks for the info, ogdens.

 

I have tried using the audio capture again. It still doesn't work with the usb device and only the stereo RCA plugs connected.

 

 

I even tried unplugging the device, just using stereo RCA to mini phone directly into the computer mic jack. Even this method of line-in doesn't work. What did happen was that the built-in computer mic registered sound (unheard, but I know that mic will record) but only on the left channel. The line-in didn't do anything but change the meter from registering stereo to that left channel alone. And none of the sound was coming from the source. It was from noises I was making. A light suddenly dawns as to why avi files captured with the usb device only seem to have a left stereo channel (or only one channel, anyway) when I edit them on Adobe Premiere and finally onto DVD. (See the next paragraph.) I never have that problem when using firewire for capture into Premiere, probably because it bypasses all the Vista stuff. I will have to remember to double the wav files when the avi files have come from the HDD cameras, and pan them. Not the same as true stereo, but better than nothing.

 

 

I have had results in the past with using an external mic plugged in to the computer, and recording "live by air" from the speakers of a boom box. It works, but of course, isn't the best quality, and the room has to be utterly quiet. I realize, now, the problem is either the sound card, the Vista, or both. The sound card (Conexant) doesn't seem to have much in the way of options. The Roxio "Recording Setup Guide" (in the LP and Tape Assistant program) does say in step 2 that Vista doesn't have an option for setting "Input". It seems to not have any line input at all. And this on an "entertainment" computer.

 

So unless anyone has any bright ideas, I guess I'm back to capturing avi and dumping the video part, or using a mic in a quiet room.

 

Thank you all so much! I'm certainly going away with another week's experience and some new knowledge.

 

greenjeans

 

 

Guess what? I found out settings in my sound section of the control panel had reset sometime. Hooray that on rereading a pinned post (by Jim Harden?), I decided to recheck. It had said before I fiddled with anything that the usb device was working correctly, enabled, etc.; and I'm not sure that I actually changed anything in the end, but after setting and unsetting a few things, it suddenly began to record. Now my problem is that I can't hear what I'm recording. Until I get to the Sound Editor, there IS no sound. The LP and Tape Assistant shows a recording level, and the wave file is certainly there in the next step, but I can't HEAR anything until it gets to the 2nd editing program. Any suggestion? I went in and reset speaker settings, too, but no luck. Thank you. greenjeans

[sknis]

Guess what? I found out settings in my sound section of the control panel had reset sometime. Hooray that on rereading a pinned post (by Jim Harden?), I decided to recheck. It had said before I fiddled with anything that the usb device was working correctly, enabled, etc.; and I'm not sure that I actually changed anything in the end, but after setting and unsetting a few things, it suddenly began to record. Now my problem is that I can't hear what I'm recording. Until I get to the Sound Editor, there IS no sound. The LP and Tape Assistant shows a recording level, and the wave file is certainly there in the next step, but I can't HEAR anything until it gets to the 2nd editing program. Any suggestion? I went in and reset speaker settings, too, but no luck. Thank you. greenjeans

 

That is a problem with your audio card/chip. It won't allow you to hear and capture at the same time. If your computer is NOT a laptop, consider in getting a Sound Blaster card. That will give you the ability to hear and capture. Those card start around $40 and take a few minutes to install.

[greenjeans]

Try this.

 

1. Copy all the files from the disc to a folder on your hard drive

2. Download and extract this file to the folder (Replace the existing setup.exe)

http://www.dutran.com/Roxio/setup.zip

3. Run the batch file CleanSystem.bat. It will prompt you to uninstall

4. Run through the uninstallation steps to uninstall Creator. Reboot machine

5. Run setup.exe and reinstall

 

Thank you SonicBoom. I also want to thank myguggi for what help he offered. In answering this I have lost the link. I will go back to pick it up from the e-mail once I understand what I need to do.

 

If I understand correctly, now that I have finally reinstalled the Creator 2009 by finding a restore point for my registry that enabled me to undo the mistakes I had made, I am to uninstall it again. I'm assuming the link gives me help in extracting the file and replacing the setup.exe with step-by-step instructions? Otherwise, I don't know how to do what you said. Is the CleanSytem.bat included there also? I then run the "new" setup.exe from this folder on my C drive?

 

I still do not understand WHEN to reinstall the usb capture device, and when to reinstall the SP4 pack. In my past experience, the sotware generally comes before the hardware, but not always.

 

I am frankly afraid at this point to do anything for a few days until I can get some sleep, and recover from some of my pain.

 

 

Also, is this response to the posting I made here originally about the audio, or to my original request for a ticket from Roxio? This entire thing has been a new experience for me, and extremely bewildering.

 

Thank you to all of the gurus who have helped me or anyone else. greenjeans

 

 

[sknis]

Also, is this response to the posting I made here originally about the audio, or to my original request for a ticket from Roxio? This entire thing has been a new experience for me, and extremely bewildering.

 

Thank you to all of the gurus who have helped me or anyone else. greenjeans

 

No tickets here. Those are for Roxio Tech Support and we are user support; non-funded except for the web site.

[greenjeans]

Thank you again for your e-mail. As I responded in reply to that, I already have the current service pack installed, and think it may be an issue of reinstallation as far as the recent loss of functionality is concerned. However, the service pack never cleared up the problem I described in my first posting. As it did not clear up many other issues.

 

I know one of you Gurus will probably tell me I should go back to a desktop, and I may have to do that at the loss of much of the processing speed I gained in moving to this computer. I will try some other things first. Thank you. Greenjeans

 

I'm here again momentarily. I reinstalled (clean), except forgetting to shut off the virus protection(last night). The program worked fairly well, but the audio capture still did not work. I tried to reinstall SP4, got message: " cannot delete target file: C:\Program Files\Roxio Creator 2009 Special Edition\5.0\Filters\Sonic HDDemuxer.dll " Went through cleaning files and registry again, this time using Revo uninstaller. Tried to reinstall. Now the program won't even install at all. Microsoft Net v3.5 started, then it looked as if DirectX9 Runtime was installing when "Error Code: 0652 " popped up, and it looked as if install on the underneath window had reverted to MNetv3.5 . I tried reinstalling (with virus protection off) with the usb capture device installed first, then tried with it not installed, with it plugged, with it not plugged in. Nothing good. Thanks for all the help. I don't know at this point if it's possible to get back. I also reinstalled the 2nd registry copy to replace the first one, so I can probably get back to where I was last night, but can't revert to the original registry. I know I wasn't supposed to do it that way, but clicked the button out of habit. How do I use my copy to replace the current registry, and will that help? Maybe I can't get back to where I was since files are removed before the registry gets changed. ( After last PM's reinstall Adobe Premiere had lost all my preferences and projects, but I had already made sure all video files were backed up onto external drives, and no projects actually in progress). One attempt at reinstall was this AM, the other PM after the computer being off all day. Discouraging. Thanks, Greenjeans

[greenjeans]

That is a problem with your audio card/chip. It won't allow you to hear and capture at the same time. If your computer is NOT a laptop, consider in getting a Sound Blaster card. That will give you the ability to hear and capture. Those card start around $40 and take a few minutes to install.

 

 

Thanks again, sknis. This IS a laptop, unfortunately.

 

I have Sound Blaster Live on the desk-top computer I've used for composing, arranging, recording music for ages. I love it even though it doesn't have xlr inputs. And even though the Cakewalk program I use on it isn't made anymore, apparently. It's running on Windows Millenium (upgrade from 98), and has the old usb system. I can't remember how many G's it is (not many). It's not worth upgrading, I know. In fact my younger brother thought there was no way I was running real-time recording with so many tracks on that computer. Unfortunately, the Sound Blaster was incompatible with the sound card on the new computer He convinced me to try to use for all my media. Back it went into the huge, old computer tower.

 

At least I can record from vinyl now, thanks to all the advice. I really like the ability to carry this computer TO the other equipment, and on trips for video download as I run out of camera space.

 

Thank you again for all your help. Thank you for not letting on that I have bored you. There is one more question before I sign off here.

 

 

What exactly are the wav, or avi, or mpeg file qualities that the file loses when it's transferred to an external drive after being downloaded with the Roxio? I can't tell the difference between a file I have edited (thus seeing or hearing it) before storing it, or one I've reloaded from the external drive before editing. I don't know which program it is telling me that this will happen, but it's after I drag and drop the files to the drive, before it actually copies them.

 

Thanks, greenjeans

 

[bimicher]

Thanks again, sknis. This IS a laptop, unfortunately.

 

I have Sound Blaster Live on the desk-top computer I've used for composing, arranging, recording music for ages. I love it even though it doesn't have xlr inputs. And even though the Cakewalk program I use on it isn't made anymore, apparently. It's running on Windows Millenium (upgrade from 98), and has the old usb system. I can't remember how many G's it is (not many). It's not worth upgrading, I know. In fact my younger brother thought there was no way I was running real-time recording with so many tracks on that computer. Unfortunately, the Sound Blaster was incompatible with the sound card on the new computer He convinced me to try to use for all my media. Back it went into the huge, old computer tower.

 

At least I can record from vinyl now, thanks to all the advice. I really like the ability to carry this computer TO the other equipment, and on trips for video download as I run out of camera space.

 

Thank you again for all your help. Thank you for not letting on that I have bored you. There is one more question before I sign off here.

 

 

What exactly are the wav, or avi, or mpeg file qualities that the file loses when it's transferred to an external drive after being downloaded with the Roxio? I can't tell the difference between a file I have edited (thus seeing or hearing it) before storing it, or one I've reloaded from the external drive before editing. I don't know which program it is telling me that this will happen, but it's after I drag and drop the files to the drive, before it actually copies them.

 

Thanks, greenjeans

 

 

No qualities are lost when transferring files to an external drive. The files on the external drive will be identical to the source files.

[sknis]

I'm here again momentarily. I reinstalled (clean), except forgetting to shut off the virus protection(last night). The program worked fairly well, but the audio capture still did not work. I tried to reinstall SP4, got message: " cannot delete target file: C:\Program Files\Roxio Creator 2009 Special Edition\5.0\Filters\Sonic HDDemuxer.dll " Went through cleaning files and registry again, this time using Revo uninstaller. Tried to reinstall. Now the program won't even install at all. Microsoft Net v3.5 started, then it looked as if DirectX9 Runtime was installing when "Error Code: 0652 " popped up, and it looked as if install on the underneath window had reverted to MNetv3.5 . I tried reinstalling (with virus protection off) with the usb capture device installed first, then tried with it not installed, with it plugged, with it not plugged in. Nothing good. Thanks for all the help. I don't know at this point if it's possible to get back. I also reinstalled the 2nd registry copy to replace the first one, so I can probably get back to where I was last night, but can't revert to the original registry. I know I wasn't supposed to do it that way, but clicked the button out of habit. How do I use my copy to replace the current registry, and will that help? Maybe I can't get back to where I was since files are removed before the registry gets changed. ( After last PM's reinstall Adobe Premiere had lost all my preferences and projects, but I had already made sure all video files were backed up onto external drives, and no projects actually in progress). One attempt at reinstall was this AM, the other PM after the computer being off all day. Discouraging. Thanks, Greenjeans

 

Since this is now an installation issue, I'm again moving this thread to the Install/Uninstall section of the forum. Roxio has a person who works on installation isssues (only) with Creator 2009 watching that thread. Since it is a week end, you may have to sit tight for a day or so. He may be able to help. I'll notify him.

 

In the meantime, please read any applicable pinned posts at the top of this section of the forum. You may get some help there.

 

BTW, did you ever check for updates for your audio card and have you enabled all the applicable audio devices?

[greenjeans]

Since this is now an installation issue, I'm again moving this thread to the Install/Uninstall section of the forum. Roxio has a person who works on installation isssues (only) with Creator 2009 watching that thread. Since it is a week end, you may have to sit tight for a day or so. He may be able to help. I'll notify him.

 

In the meantime, please read any applicable pinned posts at the top of this section of the forum. You may get some help there.

 

BTW, did you ever check for updates for your audio card and have you enabled all the applicable audio devices?

 

I have checked for updates on everything, and I believe the underlying issue, not for the initial problems with Creator 2009, but for the problems I am having now with reinstall actually date back to changes someone else made on this computer in Nov. I cannot get to the root of it, but I believe this person (not in our household) not only installed a free virus protection (at my request, but I believe a version for his XP, not my Vista), but also interrupted my auto update from HP (and possibly windows, I don't remember, now) without my permission, and in fact could not get into my administrator user, but tried. I certainly have not had auto updates since that date, and a lot of what I have downloaded for this specific computer will not install. I thought I had partly remedied the problem by uninstalling that virus protection and getting another directly from Windows, but have still had issues that go on affecting everything else. Thank you for all your help, and thanks for passing me on to someone else who probably will help with this issue. I'm sorry, now, that I've probably wasted your time, but I truly did not think of installation problems relating to this as the SP4 did install since that date ( I think). BTW, it may be the April 27 restore point on Reg Cure that helps save the day on reg issues. Ironically, I have hardly had to clean the reg in recent months, but just had had 2 files that needed to be deleted on that date.) Thanks again. Got to run. Sincerely, Greenjeans Oh, and yes, I had enabled the audio card program some time ago (was so surprised to find it off when I went to burn cds) and double checked that just yesterday or day before.

[sknis]

I have checked for updates on everything, and I believe the underlying issue, not for the initial problems with Creator 2009, but for the problems I am having now with reinstall actually date back to changes someone else made on this computer in Nov. I cannot get to the root of it, but I believe this person (not in our household) not only installed a free virus protection (at my request, but I believe a version for his XP, not my Vista), but also interrupted my auto update from HP (and possibly windows, I don't remember, now) without my permission, and in fact could not get into my administrator user, but tried. I certainly have not had auto updates since that date, and a lot of what I have downloaded for this specific computer will not install. I thought I had partly remedied the problem by uninstalling that virus protection and getting another directly from Windows, but have still had issues that go on affecting everything else. Thank you for all your help, and thanks for passing me on to someone else who probably will help with this issue. I'm sorry, now, that I've probably wasted your time, but I truly did not think of installation problems relating to this as the SP4 did install since that date ( I think). BTW, it may be the April 27 restore point on Reg Cure that helps save the day on reg issues. Ironically, I have hardly had to clean the reg in recent months, but just had had 2 files that needed to be deleted on that date.) Thanks again. Got to run. Sincerely, Greenjeans Oh, and yes, I had enabled the audio card program some time ago (was so surprised to find it off when I went to burn cds) and double checked that just yesterday or day before.

 

Mooved again since you have fixed the install issue.

[greenjeans]

Mooved again since you have fixed the install issue.

 

I'm sorry, I must not have been clear. I have not fixed the install issue. I guess my way of saying "good-by, I have to leave, now" in saying gotta run or got to run was a bad choice of words for those using shorthand e-mailese. I am back home now. I will try to use that restore point to get me back to where we first started the other day. I assume anything I downloaded after that point will still be fine, but installs after that time will not? I'm really not sure what a registry restore changes, especially if you have already uninstalled the programs by hand as I have done, then the second time by the Revo. I know there is still a partial copy of the Creator 2009 on here from the last install attempt. I guess I may have to redownload or at least reinstall the Revo Unin., Auslogics (I installed Boost Speed, and while it worked fine, it's only a 15 day trial, and if the regular defragger gives me longer, I may get that instead), and I downloaded sdcopy onto my desktop. There were other things I downloaded, but didn't install. It's possible this will at least fix the issue of being able to reinstall the program, and maybe even the SP. I will continue with saving the registry, the restore, save the registry, see what's on here, see what I need to do, and repost. Sorry to take more of your weekend time, and especially Sunday. BTW, I notice I'm on Creator 2010 here. You can leave me here for now if you want, I'm not real good at navigating this site, though I have written down the path. I've been relying on your e-mails. Thank you, greenjeans

[bimicher]

I'm sorry, I must not have been clear. I have not fixed the install issue. I guess my way of saying "good-by, I have to leave, now" in saying gotta run or got to run was a bad choice of words for those using shorthand e-mailese. I am back home now. I will try to use that restore point to get me back to where we first started the other day. I assume anything I downloaded after that point will still be fine, but installs after that time will not? I'm really not sure what a registry restore changes, especially if you have already uninstalled the programs by hand as I have done, then the second time by the Revo. I know there is still a partial copy of the Creator 2009 on here from the last install attempt. I guess I may have to redownload or at least reinstall the Revo Unin., Auslogics (I installed Boost Speed, and while it worked fine, it's only a 15 day trial, and if the regular defragger gives me longer, I may get that instead), and I downloaded sdcopy onto my desktop. There were other things I downloaded, but didn't install. It's possible this will at least fix the issue of being able to reinstall the program, and maybe even the SP. I will continue with saving the registry, the restore, save the registry, see what's on here, see what I need to do, and repost. Sorry to take more of your weekend time, and especially Sunday. BTW, I notice I'm on Creator 2010 here. You can leave me here for now if you want, I'm not real good at navigating this site, though I have written down the path. I've been relying on your e-mails. Thank you, greenjeans

 

 

Actually, all of your posts are very unclear with too much useless and unrelated information. Its really not necessary to tells us what other programs you installed or uninstalled such as Boost Speed or sd copy. It would also make your posts more readable if you were to use some paragraphs and don't use "short hand -mailese", it doesn't cost anymore to use full english

[greenjeans]

Actually, all of your posts are very unclear with too much useless and unrelated information. Its really not necessary to tells us what other programs you installed or uninstalled such as Boost Speed or sd copy. It would also make your posts more readable if you were to use some paragraphs and don't use "short hand -mailese", it doesn't cost anymore to use full english

 

I'm very sorry I am unclear. I thought I had been using paragraphs, and full English. What I meant was that someone could have misunderstood my term "got to run" as meaning I got the program to run. I had already told sknis that I would have to be gone several times. I had read some other guru's answers previously who were "testy" because someone didn't answer them immediately. sknis had advised me to use those programs, and I was trying to find out what would happen when I restored the registry. I have already made some mistakes here, and am only on here because I don't want to permanently ruin things on my computer. Of course, I am also trying to get this Creator 2009 to work properly.

 

I have now reinstalled Creator 2009 Special Edition. Do I go ahead and reinstall the USB device now, or download and reinstall SP4 first? This is the point at which the previous full reinstall got hung up. Thank you. greenjeans

 

[greenjeans]

I'm very sorry I am unclear. I thought I had been using paragraphs, and full English. What I meant was that someone could have misunderstood my term "got to run" as meaning I got the program to run. I had already told sknis that I would have to be gone several times. I had read some other guru's answers previously who were "testy" because someone didn't answer them immediately. sknis had advised me to use those programs, and I was trying to find out what would happen when I restored the registry. I have already made some mistakes here, and am only on here because I don't want to permanently ruin things on my computer. Of course, I am also trying to get this Creator 2009 to work properly.

 

I have now reinstalled Creator 2009 Special Edition. Do I go ahead and reinstall the USB device now, or download and reinstall SP4 first? This is the point at which the previous full reinstall got hung up. Thank you. greenjeans

 

I am having to go now and won' t be back for more than a full day.

 

I don't know how to get to the page I'm on "here" to read the other posts. Greenjeans