2 Or More Videos Per Dvd

[mikem]

How do you burn more than one video per dvd (double layer)?

Was told to do, edit video-advanced, new production, add video, select movie

output tab, send to mydvd. When you try to burn the additional movie you get

"disc is not empty" message?

[mikem]

It isn't hard to do, not at all…

 

But everyone is telling you HOW to do it and you keep ignoring all advice and go back to doing the wrong way!

 

VideoWave is your EDITOR. It burns nothing!!! You create Projects with VideoWave…

 

MyDVD is your Authoring software. You add Projects and burn discs with it.

 

I have 5, projects totaling 5+ hours of play that I will be putting on one BD disc. Each project is built separately in VW and finally I will assemble them in MyDVD and burn the disc…

 

I am not ignoring anyting! I have tried what has been recommended and will be trying to save it to a file and then copy today. I very much appreciate everyone's help and understanding. The software/developer issue is real no matter how protective some folks are over it. Software should be developed with the end user in mine. If something cannot/should not be done in one particular ways then it should not be available. Or at the very least the software should have clear error messages stating such! I have followed instructions stating edit and then send to mydvd and now being told that is not the way, why is my understanding being questioned?

 

Again I do appreciate the help

[sknis]

Just one more thing. An AVCHD disc can hold between 40 and perhaps 60 minutes of video. You will have problems if you try to get more on a disc.

 

Which blu-ray player do you have and have you verified that it will play AVCHD discs. Not all do.

[mikem]

Just one more thing. An AVCHD disc can hold between 40 and perhaps 60 minutes of video. You will have problems if you try to get more on a disc.

 

Which blu-ray player do you have and have you verified that it will play AVCHD discs. Not all do.

 

I bought the sony 570 blu ray player, it does play the HD videos. I also have some dual layer dvd discs, although I am hesitant to use them?

I will be trying what Larry said to do:

 

Edit both videos

Send to mydvd

Deselect burn to disc

Select save to disc image file

folder and name

save

burn

 

Blank disc

data copy tab burn disc image

open both video files

copy to dvd drive

copy

 

I don't know why I went through listing these again but it appears I am taking some flak from some folks.

 

Keep fingers crossed

 

Thanks for the assist

Mike

[bimicher]

I bought the sony 570 blu ray player, it does play the HD videos. I also have some dual layer dvd discs, although I am hesitant to use them?

I will be trying what Larry said to do:

 

Edit both videos

Send to mydvd

Deselect burn to disc

Select save to disc image file

folder and name

save

burn

 

Blank disc

data copy tab burn disc image

open both video files

copy to dvd drive

copy

 

I don't know why I went through listing these again but it appears I am taking some flak from some folks.

 

Keep fingers crossed

 

Thanks for the assist

Mike

 

I don'tknow why we keep repeating: you cannot send two separate Videowave project to the same DVD. You can only send one VW project to myDVD. After that DVD is burned, you cannot add anything more to the DVD, it is closed, finalized!

 

You cannot combine 2 iso image files to a single DVD by copying them to a DVD.

 

To combine 2 video and burn them to a DVD you have to use a different method.

 

 

There is no need to use "send to myDVD) at all. Simply use "Output" each video project to a "Best quality" video file. Then launch myDVD and add the rendered video files and then burn. The 2files will be combined into one video if that is what you want. If creating an AVCHD DVD then you can only have 40 minutes of best quality video. Using a DL DVD you can have more.

[mikem]

Why are you using DL discs if the total video time is only 45 minutes. That would be an absolute waste of DVDs.

 

If you can't burn the iso file to a DVD then that would indicate that there is something wrong with your burner. Burning to an iso file saves having to render over and over again if a burn direct to disc fails since you can use the same file again and again. That of course assumes that the iso file was created correctly.

 

I do not know what to try next. The only thing that I did different is I saved each video file after the editing. This was rather than send to mydvd! When I add one or the other to burn there are two files that were created when I saved them. A DMSM and DAT file, movie and data file? I do not understand any differenc in saving vs sending them to mydvd.

Last night I tried burning the two again this time to a DVDRW and the same result?

[bimicher]

I do not know what to try next. The only thing that I did different is I saved each video file after the editing. This was rather than send to mydvd! When I add one or the other to burn there are two files that were created when I saved them. A DMSM and DAT file, movie and data file? I do not understand any differenc in saving vs sending them to mydvd.

Last night I tried burning the two again this time to a DVDRW and the same result?

 

The dmsm and dat file are the project files. They do not contain any video at all but are simply a list of instructions, your source files, etc fo your project. When you "save" in Videowave all you are saving is these project files, no video is created. This is completely different then "sending to DVD).

 

To create a DVD from these project files, launch myDVD and add the 2 dmsm files (the dat files are tied to the dmsm files and you don't have to do anything with them). Create your menu and then burn.

[d_deweywright]

The specific issue Walt is referring to is the terminology you're using. If you go from editing in VideoWave, and click "send to MyDVD", then you are only adding the current VideoWave project into MyDVD. If, while you're in VideoWave, you add both of your video segments, one after the other, and save them as a single VideoWave project, then the "Send to MyDVD" option will work.

 

If, you prefer to keep them separate, so you can select one or the other on your final disc, then you would indeed edit each video in VideoWave, and save each project separately, or output each project separately. Then you would close VideoWave and manually open MyDVD. Now you can add each edited video into MyDVD, create a menu to allow you to select one or the other video, and output that, as has been suggested, to an Image file, which can then be written to disc.

 

Hope that helps clear things up!

[mikem]

I don'tknow why we keep repeating: you cannot send two separate Videowave project to the same DVD. You can only send one VW project to myDVD. After that DVD is burned, you cannot add anything more to the DVD, it is closed, finalized!

 

You cannot combine 2 iso image files to a single DVD by copying them to a DVD.

 

To combine 2 video and burn them to a DVD you have to use a different method.

 

 

There is no need to use "send to myDVD) at all. Simply use "Output" each video project to a "Best quality" video file. Then launch myDVD and add the rendered video files and then burn. The 2files will be combined into one video if that is what you want. If creating an AVCHD DVD then you can only have 40 minutes of best quality video. Using a DL DVD you can have more.

 

Your right we keep repeating over and over. Your last response is what I have already tried! I edited each video and sent them separatley to my dvd. I then added each video and tried to "burn" which is were the error message came about.

 

Today I will stay within videowave (edit) and edit the videos, I will then save as disc image and then copy that to a disc (per Larry). This may be my fault with the previous message as send to mydvd was not intended. Sorry

 

Will let you know

 

Thanks

 

Just a question, What is the difference in editing a video file, saving it as a disc image file and then copying it to a disc?

Prior to all of this I was editing the video and sending it to mydvd. I would then select the project and try to burn it. Keep in mind this is two videos.

[sknis]

Your right we keep repeating over and over. Your last response is what I have already tried! I edited each video and sent them separatley to my dvd. I then added each video and tried to "burn" which is were the error message came about.

 

Today I will stay within videowave (edit) and edit the videos, I will then save as disc image and then copy that to a disc (per Larry). This may be my fault with the previous message as send to mydvd was not intended. Sorry

 

Will let you know

 

Thanks

 

Just a question, What is the difference in editing a video file, saving it as a disc image file and then copying it to a disc?

Prior to all of this I was editing the video and sending it to mydvd. I would then select the project and try to burn it. Keep in mind this is two videos.

 

You still have that screwed up. You do not save the video projects as an ISO (image file)

 

1) Open Video Wave, add your project and then export it as a "mpg2 for DVD, best quality. Use the output icon above the preview window. The project will encode; it will take some time.

2)Close Video Wave (it clears some temporary files) and then reopen it. Do the same for the second video project.

3) Close Video Wave. Do not export to Create DVD.

4) Open Create DVD.

5) Select your menu theme and make any changes you want to. Remember to title the Menu.

6) Select to Add new movie. Select the first mpg2 file.

7) Repeat for the second mpg2 file.

8) Select HQ at the lower right

9) Select to burn. When that dialog box opens, select (encode to) make ISO file. Uncheck the other options.

10) Name the ISO file and where you want it on your computer.

11) After it encodes and before you burn it to a disc, use VLC free player to see if it works properly.

12) Copy the ISO file to a disc using the application on the Home page.

 

This is the simplest, most straight forward way of create a playable DVD. It really doesn't take more time.

 

During encoding (rendering), not play games, read e-mail or anything else while this is being done. It will take time depending on your computer and video card.

 

You create an ISO file so that your computer doesn't have to encode and burn at the same time. An ISO file is an exact image of what will be put onto the DVD when you copy the ISO file to it. iT also has the advantage of being able to watch it before burning it to a disc and if you ever want to make more identical copies, you just select that ISO and copy it.

 

Please read the above carefully.

[mikem]

The dmsm and dat file are the project files. They do not contain any video at all but are simply a list of instructions, your source files, etc fo your project. When you "save" in Videowave all you are saving is these project files, no video is created. This is completely different then "sending to DVD).

 

To create a DVD from these project files, launch myDVD and add the 2 dmsm files (the dat files are tied to the dmsm files and you don't have to do anything with them). Create your menu and then burn.

 

That is exactly what I did. I edited the two videos, saved them (two files each were created, one DAT and one DMSM) I then tried to burn to dvd. I only selected the DMSM files to burn and got the error message? I might try editing these again and using the send to mydvd and see what happens overnight?

Do you know of any manuals in print for this software as I sure am not happy at the moment!

Or I might select all four files and see what happens, I can't imagine the software melting two files into one video!

 

HELP

[bimicher]

That is exactly what I did. I edited the two videos, saved them (two files each were created, one DAT and one DMSM) I then tried to burn to dvd. I only selected the DMSM files to burn and got the error message? I might try editing these again and using the send to mydvd and see what happens overnight?

Do you know of any manuals in print for this software as I sure am not happy at the moment!

Or I might select all four files and see what happens, I can't imagine the software melting two files into one video!

 

HELP

 

At the moment I am getting quite confused: exactly what are you trying to do? Do you want to combine the two videos into one video and burn the resulting video to a DVD? Do you want to create a DVD from each video so that you can select each one from the DVD menu?

 

Forget about the dat files, they are not important for creating the DVD. All they contain mostly is the thumbnail data to create the panels in Videowave. You could delete them at any time and they will be created again when you load a VW project.

 

Of course the software can "melt" two files into one. It is done all the time:mellow:

 

What error message are you talking about? I don't feel like going back an rereading the whole thread:blink:

[Larry]

I got back to burning two videos to a single DVD. I edited both videos and saved them. I went into create dvd (mydvd) and selected both videos. I then tried to burn them (8hrs worth) only to get "Build to Drive" "Author script failed Error writint to format"? I have no clue as to why, the only thing that looks strange is I am using Sony DVD+RDL discs and the creator lists them as RWs? This is when I go to burn and I look at the drive and disc type. It does this on almost every project I do?

Any suggestions as I don't want to waste another 8 hours.

 

Thanks

Mike

Based on the error you noted earlier (the text i bolded in the quote from your post), it sounds like you are trying to burn an "AVCHD on DVD" project, not a standard DVD disc project.

 

There is a KB article about that error. You can find it here:

http://kb.roxio.com/search.aspx?URL=/content/000252CR&PARAMS=set-locale=en

[mikem]

At the moment I am getting quite confused: exactly what are you trying to do? Do you want to combine the two videos into one video and burn the resulting video to a DVD? Do you want to create a DVD from each video so that you can select each one from the DVD menu?

 

Forget about the dat files, they are not important for creating the DVD. All they contain mostly is the thumbnail data to create the panels in Videowave. You could delete them at any time and they will be created again when you load a VW project.

 

Of course the software can "melt" two files into one. It is done all the time:mellow:

 

What error message are you talking about? I don't feel like going back an rereading the whole thread:blink:

 

I am trying to take two video movies and combine them into one! I will now try editing first each one and then send them to mydvd. This software is the worst I have seen in a long time, 6-8 hours of burning only to find out there is a problem. The developers would be hung out to dry if they worked for me!

[ogdens]

I am trying to take two video movies and combine them into one! I will now try editing first each one and then send them to mydvd. This software is the worst I have seen in a long time, 6-8 hours of burning only to find out there is a problem. The developers would be hung out to dry if they worked for me!

 

Did you try what was suggested in post #10 with pictures in post #11 of how to do it.

 

Read this http://forums.support.roxio.com/topic/15366-one-way-of-doing-it/

[bimicher]

I am trying to take two video movies and combine them into one! I will now try editing first each one and then send them to mydvd. This software is the worst I have seen in a long time, 6-8 hours of burning only to find out there is a problem. The developers would be hung out to dry if they worked for me!

 

Its not the software, it is your understanding of video and how to use it..

 

You can only "send" one video to a DVD. You cannot later send another video to the same DVD. That is not how it works and is not the fault of the software package. All software will work the same in this regard. Once you have burned to video DVD you cannot send/put more video to the DVD.

 

If it takes 6-8 hours to burn 45 minutes of video there is something seriously wrong with your system. To render/burn 60 minutes of video to a video should take no more then 1 to 3 hours even with the slowest PC.

 

To combine two video as a continuous video on a DVD try to do the following:

 

I assume that you have each video saved as a VW project on your hard drive. Start VW and open the 2nd project and "Output" to a DVD meg2, best quality video. Once that part is rendered, exit VW. Launch myDVD and add the first VW project file, Then add the mpeg2 file you previously created. You should now be able to burn to DVD (or an iso file) with both videos combined into one video.

[d_deweywright]

Well, to start with, you have to have both videos available and start with a blank DVD, you can't write one movie, then add another to the disc.

 

So, the idea is that you do all the preparation of the movies with Video Wave (Edit ->Video->Advanced). Then you start MyDVD, and bring in the two projects you created in VideoWave. Now you can create your menu to select which of the two movies to watch, and write it all at once.

 

Hope that helps!

[mikem]

Well, to start with, you have to have both videos available and start with a blank DVD, you can't write one movie, then add another to the disc.

 

So, the idea is that you do all the preparation of the movies with Video Wave (Edit ->Video->Advanced). Then you start MyDVD, and bring in the two projects you created in VideoWave. Now you can create your menu to select which of the two movies to watch, and write it all at once.

 

Hope that helps!

 

Thanks, that makes sense although someone should develop a way to add to existing. I save my digital photos to dvd as well as slide shows. When I want to add to the disk I just create a new folder within the disc and use that. Saves using disc after disc, especially since I just spent the extra bucks buying dual layered dvds!

Thanks again

Mike

[d_deweywright]

Sorry, but that has to do with the DVD file standards, so it's not just an arbitrary thing to change at this point. However, you could also buy a few DVD-RW discs, use those for your "single" movies, then when you get another that you'd like to put together on your dual-layer disc, do that, and you can reuse your RW disc.

 

Alternatively, players that support DIVX movies should allow you to do what you want. You export your movie as a DIVX movie, and I believe you should then be able to add to an open disc and your player (if it supports DIVX) will see the additional movie.

 

Good luck!

[bimicher]

Thanks, that makes sense although someone should develop a way to add to existing. I save my digital photos to dvd as well as slide shows. When I want to add to the disk I just create a new folder within the disc and use that. Saves using disc after disc, especially since I just spent the extra bucks buying dual layered dvds!

Thanks again

Mike

 

Are you talking about creating a video DVD or just a data DVD on which you are archiving your photos and slideshows?

If you create a video DVD it's a one shot affair, you cannot add more later on. That is the DVD standard. You can of course create a video DVD that contains your video slideshow as well as the photos that you used in your slideshow. Again that is a one-time burn ,no adding material later on.

[mikem]

Thanks, that makes sense although someone should develop a way to add to existing. I save my digital photos to dvd as well as slide shows. When I want to add to the disk I just create a new folder within the disc and use that. Saves using disc after disc, especially since I just spent the extra bucks buying dual layered dvds!

Thanks again

Mike

 

I got back to burning two videos to a single DVD. I edited both videos and saved them. I went into create dvd (mydvd) and selected both videos. I then tried to burn them (8hrs worth) only to get "Build to Drive" "Author script failed Error writint to format"? I have no clue as to why, the only thing that looks strange is I am using Sony DVD+RDL discs and the creator lists them as RWs? This is when I go to burn and I look at the drive and disc type. It does this on almost every project I do?

Any suggestions as I don't want to waste another 8 hours.

 

Thanks

Mike

[mikem]

You still have that screwed up. You do not save the video projects as an ISO (image file)

 

1) Open Video Wave, add your project and then export it as a "mpg2 for DVD, best quality. Use the output icon above the preview window. The project will encode; it will take some time.

2)Close Video Wave (it clears some temporary files) and then reopen it. Do the same for the second video project.

3) Close Video Wave. Do not export to Create DVD.

4) Open Create DVD.

5) Select your menu theme and make any changes you want to. Remember to title the Menu.

6) Select to Add new movie. Select the first mpg2 file.

7) Repeat for the second mpg2 file.

8) Select HQ at the lower right

9) Select to burn. When that dialog box opens, select (encode to) make ISO file. Uncheck the other options.

10) Name the ISO file and where you want it on your computer.

11) After it encodes and before you burn it to a disc, use VLC free player to see if it works properly.

12) Copy the ISO file to a disc using the application on the Home page.

 

This is the simplest, most straight forward way of create a playable DVD. It really doesn't take more time.

 

During encoding (rendering), not play games, read e-mail or anything else while this is being done. It will take time depending on your computer and video card.

 

You create an ISO file so that your computer doesn't have to encode and burn at the same time. An ISO file is an exact image of what will be put onto the DVD when you copy the ISO file to it. iT also has the advantage of being able to watch it before burning it to a disc and if you ever want to make more identical copies, you just select that ISO and copy it.

 

Please read the above carefully.

 

I decided to start over from the beginning. I went to capture/import from my camcorder, I decided to try the Mpg-2 format rather than the avi dv? I couldn't even find the files to edit? They show up as imported but I will be damned if I can pull them up to edit?

 

I will try this one more time, tomorrow.

 

Who is this software intended for?

 

And for those reading this, Yes I developed training material on new systems. I was given the system and started from scratch. To make a long story short it wasn't easy until a new release came out and a few adventurous folks tried some new stuff. We all (developers and myself) wound up in a arbitration hearing. The folks that tried the new stuff were fired for causing hundreds of hours of labor. The arbitrator asked why was this available if it didn't work the way it was intended. They were both rehired and the developers and I became very close friends and weekley telconferences to discuss user friendly changes! When ever a new system or an update came about we would both talk about making it better and quess what it was a labor and training savings!

[d_deweywright]

What is the total length of the videos you are trying to put on the DVD?

 

Also, to eliminate the drive and discs from the equation, set the destination in MyDVD to be a .ISO Image file on your HD. If that gets created successfully, then you can use either Creator Classic, or Video Copy and Convert to write the image file to DVD.

 

Yes, it'll take another 8 hours to render.

[mikem]

Its not the software, it is your understanding of video and how to use it..

 

You can only "send" one video to a DVD. You cannot later send another video to the same DVD. That is not how it works and is not the fault of the software package. All software will work the same in this regard. Once you have burned to video DVD you cannot send/put more video to the DVD.

 

If it takes 6-8 hours to burn 45 minutes of video there is something seriously wrong with your system. To render/burn 60 minutes of video to a video should take no more then 1 to 3 hours even with the slowest PC.

 

To combine two video as a continuous video on a DVD try to do the following:

 

I assume that you have each video saved as a VW project on your hard drive. Start VW and open the 2nd project and "Output" to a DVD meg2, best quality video. Once that part is rendered, exit VW. Launch myDVD and add the first VW project file, Then add the mpeg2 file you previously created. You should now be able to burn to DVD (or an iso file) with both videos combined into one video.

 

Thanks, I had so many files I had created that I went and cleaned house. I will now take the two videos and edit them, send them to mydvd (one at a time with titles) and try another burn.

 

IF that is not sucessful then the software is trash and will be treated as such. Way too much time in something that should be a least a little user friendly. If this burn doesn't work watch this discussion group and other sites for a scathing opinion of creator 2010!

 

Did you try what was suggested in post #10 with pictures in post #11 of how to do it.

 

Read this http://forums.support.roxio.com/topic/15366-one-way-of-doing-it/

 

I am starting over and will try what you recommended. I will take the videos from the camcorder, edit them one by one, send them to mydvd, try your suggestion and burn away.

 

If this does not work this time my understanding of video doesn't compare to the developers understanding of end users. I wrote training material for twelve years on new systems where end user material was non-existent! I started with turning the system on and learned every step and wrote training material based on this - maybe not an expert on creater 2010 but if this try doesn

't work watch this discussion group and any other site about my experience with creator 2010!

 

Based on the error you noted earlier (the text i bolded in the quote from your post), it sounds like you are trying to burn an "AVCHD on DVD" project, not a standard DVD disc project.

 

There is a KB article about that error. You can find it here:

http://kb.roxio.com/search.aspx?URL=/content/000252CR&PARAMS=set-locale=en

[bimicher]

Thanks, I had so many files I had created that I went and cleaned house. I will now take the two videos and edit them, send them to mydvd (one at a time with titles) and try another burn.

 

IF that is not sucessful then the software is trash and will be treated as such. Way too much time in something that should be a least a little user friendly. If this burn doesn't work watch this discussion group and other sites for a scathing opinion of creator 2010!

 

 

 

I am starting over and will try what you recommended. I will take the videos from the camcorder, edit them one by one, send them to mydvd, try your suggestion and burn away.

 

If this does not work this time my understanding of video doesn't compare to the developers understanding of end users. I wrote training material for twelve years on new systems where end user material was non-existent! I started with turning the system on and learned every step and wrote training material based on this - maybe not an expert on creater 2010 but if this try doesn

't work watch this discussion group and any other site about my experience with creator 2010!

 

You may have been writing training manuals for 12 years but you seem to have a real problem understanding what you read. I repeat again, you cannot send two separate VW projects to myDVD and combine the videos to create a single DVD. That is not how things are done and it has nothing to do with developers.

 

Just because something does not work like you think it should does not make the software trash but does show your lack of understanding video.

[mikem]

Amazing yet another thing to try! I appreciate this as it is different than the others and it had a reference to the described error message.

Why is this such a hastle, there must be numerous users wanting to combine two videos and burn as AVCHD on one disc!