Jpeg Vs Tiff

[Sectionhiker]

OK I have been using Windows movie maker and JPEG files to make slide shows. Which worked fairly good. So I got to thinking, why not get a good program that can use higher quality photo files. Hence "Creator 2010".

 

$90.00 latter and 5 hours latter plus the trouble of going through all the photo(CS5 PSD) converting them to TIFF files I have a slide show that looks like CRAP. and that is being nice. The photos look worst then the lowest level JPEG one could imagine, not one smooth line, grain and noise that would blind a person. The same show made in Creator using JPEGs looks fine, but I spent $90.00 to look better. WHY??? Is it me or is it the program.

 

Oh and when the slide show plays the panoramas I did in CS5 layer over the other slides. In other words the a regular size photo (random) shows behind the panorama's as they display.

 

One last thing is there a why to have a title show under the photo without reducing the size of the displaying photo?

 

Using HP DVD+R disks

 

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[gi7omy]

The first question is - are you using 8 or 16 bit .tiff files?

 

Not all programs support 16 bit so that could be where the problem is arising.

 

In regard to having text under the picture, I'm sure if you stop and think that to clear space underneath will automatically reduce the space above - it's one of those things that can't be worked round. The only way would be to put the text in as an overlay (but in that case you'll have the bottom covered in writing)

[sknis]

OK I have been using Windows movie maker and JPEG files to make slide shows. Which worked fairly good. So I got to thinking, why not get a good program that can use higher quality photo files. Hence "Creator 2010".

 

$90.00 latter and 5 hours latter plus the trouble of going through all the photo(CS5 PSD) converting them to TIFF files I have a slide show that looks like CRAP. and that is being nice. The photos look worst then the lowest level JPEG one could imagine, not one smooth line, grain and noise that would blind a person. The same show made in Creator using JPEGs looks fine, but I spent $90.00 to look better. WHY??? Is it me or is it the program.

 

Oh and when the slide show plays the panoramas I did in CS5 layer over the other slides. In other words the a regular size photo (random) shows behind the panorama's as they display.

 

One last thing is there a why to have a title show under the photo without reducing the size of the displaying photo?

 

Using HP DVD+R disks

 

Basic Computer:

Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 2.8GHz

12 gigs DDR3 XMS3

Raid 2 Velociraptors WD1500

ASUS MB P6T

EVGA 512-P3-N871-AR GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16

 

 

What format does your camera natively support? Is it one of the format types that Creator 2010 supports? What kind of photography background do you have so I don't try to talk down to you? What kind of TIFF files? (see link below). Why do you think that TIFF files will give you a better slide show than jpeg?

 

Unless you are making AVCHD or blu-ray discs, all images are converted to standard definition of 760 by 420 when they are made into a finished slide show for DVD.

 

You are taking perfectly good images trying to up-convert them and then the program down-converts them. Since PSD files are not supported, then they do need to be converted to something. I find that the section under Flexible Options in this articleparticularly applicable.

Since the resolution is going to be low anyway, why not use the original camera format (if possible) or jpeg?

 

Suggestion-- Get a blu-ray player that will play AVCHD discs and make those. They can be made on your current computer on standard discs but do need an AVCHD capable blu-ray player to play them. They are high definition so you get 1080 rather than 420. You get about 40 to 60 minutes of finished video on a disc.

 

Are you familiar with the TV safe zone? If the image is cut off, that is not due to the title, it is an artifact of TV display. Read this. I don't understand your question re: Title Under the photo? Are you adding text to an image? It should show ON the image.

[Sectionhiker]

What format does your camera natively support? Is it one of the format types that Creator 2010 supports? What kind of photography background do you have so I don't try to talk down to you? What kind of TIFF files? (see link below). Why do you think that TIFF files will give you a better slide show than jpeg?

 

Unless you are making AVCHD or blu-ray discs, all images are converted to standard definition of 760 by 420 when they are made into a finished slide show for DVD.

 

You are taking perfectly good images trying to up-convert them and then the program down-converts them. Since PSD files are not supported, then they do need to be converted to something. I find that the section under Flexible Options in this articleparticularly applicable.

Since the resolution is going to be low anyway, why not use the original camera format (if possible) or jpeg?

 

Suggestion-- Get a blu-ray player that will play AVCHD discs and make those. They can be made on your current computer on standard discs but do need an AVCHD capable blu-ray player to play them. They are high definition so you get 1080 rather than 420. You get about 40 to 60 minutes of finished video on a disc.

 

Are you familiar with the TV safe zone? If the image is cut off, that is not due to the title, it is an artifact of TV display. Read this. I don't understand your question re: Title Under the photo? Are you adding text to an image? It should show ON the image.

 

I shot RAW files then process and save them in PSD format. I then take this file and convert it to whatever file type I need, JPEG/TIFF.

I like the idea of making Blu-Ray and will try that. I have a brand new Sony Blu-Ray player and will check its capabilities. Being new I would think it would.

Yes as far as putting a caption/Title under photo goes I am trying to use Photoshow,instead of the DVD maker. I think that was part of my problem. Just started laying out show. Have not tried burning a DVD yet.

 

The first question is - are you using 8 or 16 bit .tiff files?

 

Not all programs support 16 bit so that could be where the problem is arising.

 

In regard to having text under the picture, I'm sure if you stop and think that to clear space underneath will automatically reduce the space above - it's one of those things that can't be worked round. The only way would be to put the text in as an overlay (but in that case you'll have the bottom covered in writing)

 

 

I do save my TIFF files in 8 bit. See answer to next reply.

[sknis]

Why do you go from RAW to PSD to TIFF/JPEG? Can't you go from RAW to TIFF/jpeg? Unless you are going to do a lot with the RAW files, can't you just shoot at a high quality jpeg. Are you blowing up the pictures to a extremely large size for printing? What Photo Editing program are you using? What are you using to convert the RAW files to another format?

 

As posted above, it doesn't matter on the original resolution if you are going to output to a DVD slide show at 720 by 480.

 

I suggested AVCHD and not blu-ray. You need a blu-ray burner, BR discs and player for blu ray discs. For AVCHD, you use your standard burner, standard discs and your blu-ray player if it will play AVCHD discs; not all do.

[Sectionhiker]

Why do you go from RAW to PSD to TIFF/JPEG? Can't you go from RAW to TIFF/jpeg? Unless you are going to do a lot with the RAW files, can't you just shoot at a high quality jpeg. Are you blowing up the pictures to a extremely large size for printing? What Photo Editing program are you using? What are you using to convert the RAW files to another format?

 

As posted above, it doesn't matter on the original resolution if you are going to output to a DVD slide show at 720 by 480.

 

I suggested AVCHD and not blu-ray. You need a blu-ray burner, BR discs and player for blu ray discs. For AVCHD, you use your standard burner, standard discs and your blu-ray player if it will play AVCHD discs; not all do.

 

I always shot in RAW and I always process them and save in PSD. I convert only those files need to JPEG or TIFF depending on what their use maybe ie emailing etc.... I do not blow them up. Even if I did it would not matter except in JPEG and even then it could have to be a 14X19 to make a difference. The individual file size is 14 megs. 99% of my photography is for prints on a Epson 1900 and I have everything optimized for that (either 4x6 or 8x10)

 

As far as photo editing CS5

 

Sorry, That is what I meant AVCHD for Blu-Ray play. As of now my DVD Burner/Player does not support Blu-Ray recording. I will have to get a new one.

[sknis]

You must have a lot of hard drive space! (or frequently delete files.)