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I have a question about how SLOW VideoWave is when trying to save the file. I literally can get up, go get a cup of coffee and check the weather, and then MAYBE it will be done saving. And, if you touch the computer during a save... CRASH. Why is this?

 

I have found this problem in the last 4 versions of Roxio Creator. Each time I upgrade I hope the problem will be fixed.

 

Any suggestions? I have 3 gigs of ram, Vista Home Premium (I've used it on a 64 bit machine with 16 gigs of ram and it's the same thing.)

 

The slideshows I produce in videowave generally have 300-400 photos, but they are reduced to 72 DPI and sized appropriately.

 

So what setting can I check to help this situation?

 

ON another note, about every third or fourth photo JUMPS before it plays. It makes for a terrible presentation. Help on this matter would be appreciated too.

 

Thanks for any and all help. :(

Chris

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There could be a lot of things

 

What's your processor speed?

 

What graphics card do you have?

 

When did you last defragment your drive(s)?

 

Do you have any other apps running in the background?

 

How long (in time) does the slideshow run?

 

No doubt there would be other questions, but those are the main ones

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I have a question about how SLOW VideoWave is when trying to save the file. I literally can get up, go get a cup of coffee and check the weather, and then MAYBE it will be done saving. And, if you touch the computer during a save... CRASH. Why is this?

 

I have found this problem in the last 4 versions of Roxio Creator. Each time I upgrade I hope the problem will be fixed.

 

Any suggestions? I have 3 gigs of ram, Vista Home Premium (I've used it on a 64 bit machine with 16 gigs of ram and it's the same thing.)

 

The slideshows I produce in videowave generally have 300-400 photos, but they are reduced to 72 DPI and sized appropriately.

 

So what setting can I check to help this situation?

 

ON another note, about every third or fourth photo JUMPS before it plays. It makes for a terrible presentation. Help on this matter would be appreciated too.

 

Thanks for any and all help. :(

Chris

 

 

What do you mean by "save"? Are you just saving the project file or do you mean "rendering" to a video file?

What settings are you using if you are rendering?

BTW, if you are rendering and it is done while having a coffee that would be a very fast render process.

 

Why are you changing the photo sizes? Videowave accepts all sizes.

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Yes, I have done all the things listed above. I am talking about a regular save, not rendering video

 

My system is

 

HP Intel Dual Quad core 2.4 ghz

Clock speed 2394 Mhz

3 gig memory

2 320 gig drives, plus another 169 gig drive

Nividia GE 8400 GS display card

 

Drives are defrayed on a regular basis.

All other Programs closed. Nothing in the background running.

Slideshow is 12 minutes long. All straight dissolves, and one track audio.

 

hope this helps.

 

Chris

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What exactly do you mean by 'saving'?

 

If it's the output from Videowave as a slide show or whatever, it's rendering (making it DVD compliant) and writing the file to disc. The only actual 'save' would be the .dmsm project file (which is just a 'map' of where the files are)

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What exactly do you mean by 'saving'?

 

If it's the output from Videowave as a slide show or whatever, it's rendering (making it DVD compliant) and writing the file to disc. The only actual 'save' would be the .dmsm project file (which is just a 'map' of where the files are)

 

 

Yes, just a regular save of the videowave file. Cntl S. Or under File, Click on save. Just a simple save of the project.

 

no rendering or anything like that. Just a save of the .dmsm file.

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Yes, just a regular save of the videowave file. Cntl S. Or under File, Click on save. Just a simple save of the project.

 

no rendering or anything like that. Just a save of the .dmsm file.

 

If you use Hardware Rendering, things really bog down on some PC's…

 

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Your slideshows would seem likely to be around 30 minutes long??? The 12 minutes you cite would only allow 2.4 to 1.8 seconds per slide for the 300 or 400 slides you mentioned...

 

I have seen the 'slow' saves sometimes but either the SW Render or a reboot took care of it. ;)

 

Also expand a little on the 'touch' & 'crash' portion you mentioned???

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If you use Hardware Rendering, things really bog down on some PC's…

 

post-39730-009166100 1280772436.jpg

 

Your slideshows would seem likely to be around 30 minutes long??? The 12 minutes you cite would only allow 2.4 to 1.8 seconds per slide for the 300 or 400 slides you mentioned...

 

I have seen the 'slow' saves sometimes but either the SW Render or a reboot took care of it. ;)

 

Also expand a little on the 'touch' & 'crash' portion you mentioned???

 

 

Jim, the OP is saving the VW project file not rendering according to his last post.

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Yes, just a regular save of the videowave file. Cntl S. Or under File, Click on save. Just a simple save of the project.

 

no rendering or anything like that. Just a save of the .dmsm file.

 

 

A "Save" like yours should take no more then a few seconds.

 

Try to save the project without the mp3 files, you can save to another project file so that you can keep the original dmsm file.

 

Where do you get the photo files you are using? How and with what program are you changing them?

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Make sure that your anti-virus is set to NOT che ck everything being saved (written) to your hard drive. Are you using an interndal drive or a USB connected drive?

 

How many processes do you have running in the background (task manager)? When you save, what is using your CPU time?

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Answers to above questions?

 

The photo length is generally about 2.3 to 2.9 seconds with dissolves in between. The photos are sometimes stored right on the same drive as the project, sometimes on an iomega drive connected with FireWire. That doesn't seem to make a difference. I do a batch process in Photoshop CS5.

 

It doesn't make a difference if there is audio on a track or not. It still long time to save.

 

my settings have been for hardware rendering, but will try software rendering... Think I've tried this before, but will try again.

 

When I say crash if touched... That means the slightest movement of the mouse while saving, will crash or actually freeze the program. Then it's Cntl Alt Delete, to try and stop the program or to restart my computer.

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Answers to above questions?

 

The photo length is generally about 2.3 to 2.9 seconds with dissolves in between. The photos are sometimes stored right on the same drive as the project, sometimes on an iomega drive connected with FireWire. That doesn't seem to make a difference. I do a batch process in Photoshop CS5.

 

It doesn't make a difference if there is audio on a track or not. It still long time to save.

 

my settings have been for hardware rendering, but will try software rendering... Think I've tried this before, but will try again.

 

When I say crash if touched... That means the slightest movement of the mouse while saving, will crash or actually freeze the program. Then it's Cntl Alt Delete, to try and stop the program or to restart my computer.

I think your preprocessing of the Pics is completly unnecessary… Do you have any good reason for doing it?

 

I just ran some tests on my XPS and couldn't get but a few seconds difference between saving under Software or Hardware… With my older 8300 it was more noticeable

 

I used 400 pics, 5 sec for a 25 minute project and it took 2 1/2 minutes to save…

 

And about 53 seconds to load. But I can surf the web, play Hearts do screen caps and edit in Paint Shop Pro without a crash.

 

Do my times come pretty close to yours?

 

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Answers to above questions?

 

The photo length is generally about 2.3 to 2.9 seconds with dissolves in between. The photos are sometimes stored right on the same drive as the project, sometimes on an iomega drive connected with FireWire. That doesn't seem to make a difference. I do a batch process in Photoshop CS5.

 

It doesn't make a difference if there is audio on a track or not. It still long time to save.

 

my settings have been for hardware rendering, but will try software rendering... Think I've tried this before, but will try again.

 

When I say crash if touched... That means the slightest movement of the mouse while saving, will crash or actually freeze the program. Then it's Cntl Alt Delete, to try and stop the program or to restart my computer.

 

 

Your posts are confusing. You keep saying you are saving but mention transitions, length of photos, rendering, etc. All of these will have absolutely no effect when you are saving your project to a dmsm file which is what you are doing according to your post #6. Saving is not outputting to a video file.

 

Try a couple of short test projects. One with the "undoctored" photos and one with the photos processed by Photoshop.

Why are you running the photos through Photoshop?

 

BTW, I have found it is a lot easier to have all the assets used in a project in a project folder. I usually make copies of the photos, audio clips etc, and put them into the project folder. That way there is no chance of even accidently modifying any of the orginals.

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Jim, the OP is saving the VW project file not rendering according to his last post.

 

 

OK. Sorry for the confusion. I only mentioned the transitions etc, so you would know what kind of project I was working with.

 

I process my photos as I am a professional photographer and videographer and generally work in raw files. I am an experienced computer person... And generally can figure these things out. But have never been able to figure out why the basic saving process of the project file takes forever and many times crashes my machine. I like videowave for my slideshows as it is quick and very simple. I use many Adobe products... premier, dreamweaver, flash etc. So I'm not new at this sort of thing. I used Roxio since creator 5.

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OK. Sorry for the confusion. I only mentioned the transitions etc, so you would know what kind of project I was working with.

 

I process my photos as I am a professional photographer and videographer and generally work in raw files. I am an experienced computer person... And generally can figure these things out. But have never been able to figure out why the basic saving process of the project file takes forever and many times crashes my machine. I like videowave for my slideshows as it is quick and very simple. I use many Adobe products... premier, dreamweaver, flash etc. So I'm not new at this sort of thing. I used Roxio since creator 5.

 

 

Could you try some of the things I suggested in my last post. We are trying to establish if using PS 5 somehow is related to your problem. There have been very, very few posts (if any) on a problem similar to yours.

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A "Save" like yours should take no more then a few seconds.

 

Try to save the project without the mp3 files, you can save to another project file so that you can keep the original dmsm file.

 

Where do you get the photo files you are using? How and with what program are you changing them?

 

I have exactly the same problem. I created a Slide Show using MyDVD. Any time I click File, Save then it takes over 30 minutes to save the slide show with about 200 photos. Also when I try to burn it on a DVD, it stay in the Burn Project Window with 97% Overall Progress for over an hour. Roxio MyDVD software continuosly shows "Not Responding". The only slow program running is Roxio MyDVD, everthing else is fast.

Gateway GM56322E Multimedia Powerhous PC, Windows 7, 3GB DDR2 Dual-Channel Memory, NVIDIA GeForce 8500GT Video, 2 x 500 GB SATA II Hard Drives.

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I have same problem with Roxio 2010 My DVD as noted here, and now while I have no difficulty opening my files, I can not File - Save anything. I have used disc Repair with some good results, but soon I'm back to the same problems I see posted here. When I try to File - Save my work, the computer tries for a long time, then I get the (Not Responding) message and all work is for naught. My specs are: HP Pavilion p6180t, Windows 7, Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q8400 (2.66GHz, 4MB L2, 1.3333MHz FSB), 6GB DDR-3-1066MHZ SDRAM, 640GB 7200 rpm SATA hard drive, 512MB ATI Radeon HD 4350 Video Card. I sure hope someone has a solution because I like the features of the Roxio 2010 My DVD productions, but I can't seem to get it working right.

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Doesn't matter, Software & Hardware Render settings effect many aspects, including loading and saving of Projects!

 

Of course you guys with these Firebreathing PC's won't notice it :lol:

I have the same problem here not only on my so called "Firebreathing[/i] PC's" but on my acer dule core lap top I dont think its the computers its your horse ^#!& software your selling 7.5 worked great every thing after that is junk I have bought new computers to meet or go over the min requrerment only to fined that Roxio 10 didnt work so ya pachted it up with 10.1 that still didnt work then stoped supporting it and you tell me to upgrade to 2010 just to find that dont work right ether YA THINK IM HAPPY? I THINK NOT its time to start fixing things on your end and stop blaming us the customers!

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I have the same problem here not only on my so called "Firebreathing[/i] PC's" but on my acer dule core lap top I dont think its the computers its your horse ^#!& software your selling 7.5 worked great every thing after that is junk I have bought new computers to meet or go over the min requrerment only to fined that Roxio 10 didnt work so ya pachted it up with 10.1 that still didnt work then stoped supporting it and you tell me to upgrade to 2010 just to find that dont work right ether YA THINK IM HAPPY? I THINK NOT its time to start fixing things on your end and stop blaming us the customers!

 

You posted to a users forum, not Roxio Tech Support or Customer Service. We are just users of the software, like you.

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