mykeyd Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 When using Creator 2010, what is the best way to copy a dvd file as a mpeg file format without losing 16:9 aspect ratio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sknis Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 When using Creator 2010, what is the best way to copy a dvd file as a mpeg file format without losing 16:9 aspect ratio? More details please. Where are you copying the file from? What kind of DVD file? Oops, I just saw that you have a VOB file. What are you trying to do with it? VOB = mpg2 with the extension name change. Open the folder where the VOB file is, open Windows File Options, Se Windows to not hide known extensions (it is in the list), then simply change the extension to mpg. What do you want to do with the VOB - mpg2 file? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyd Posted September 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 I changed .VOB to .mpg and saved file. I checked both files with "media Info" they both are the same, so far so good. I then open the mpg copy in Windows Media Player and it plays in 4:3 ratio, 13 minute file shows only 10 seconds on sliderbar but continues playing the whole 13 min. but I lose all menu functions. I then open the mpg copy in CinePlayer and it plays in 16:9 ratio, 13 minute file shows only 10 seconds on sliderbar but continues playing the whole 13 min. but I lose all menu functions again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sknis Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 I changed .VOB to .mpg and saved file. I checked both files with "media Info" they both are the same, so far so good. I then open the mpg copy in Windows Media Player and it plays in 4:3 ratio, 13 minute file shows only 10 seconds on sliderbar but continues playing the whole 13 min. but I lose all menu functions. I then open the mpg copy in CinePlayer and it plays in 16:9 ratio, 13 minute file shows only 10 seconds on sliderbar but continues playing the whole 13 min. but I lose all menu functions again. VOB or mpg are video files; they have nothing to do with the menu operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyd Posted September 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 When using Creator 2010, what is the best way to copy a dvd file as a mpeg file format without losing 16:9 aspect ratio and with out manually changing file to mpg? As big as C2010 is there must be some way to open a sub-app of C2010, open Vob file & save to Mpg with out losing 16:9 aspect. I changed .VOB to .mpg and saved file. I checked both files with "media Info" they both are the same, so far so good. I then open the mpg copy in Windows Media Player and it plays in 4:3 ratio, 13 minute file shows only 10 seconds on slider-bar but continues playing the whole 13 min. but I lose all VIDEO CONTROL functions (can not stop, start, pause & no slider use). I then open the mpg copy in CinePlayer and it plays in 16:9 ratio, 13 minute file shows only 10 seconds on slider-bar but continues playing the whole 13 min. but I lose all VIDEO CONTROL functions again (can not stop, start, pause & no slider use). I downloaded "sdcopyV1.9991beta.zip" and tried that option to convert Vob to Mpg but same problem exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrussell Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 If Windows Media Player plays the 16:9 file as 4:3, the file is not saved as an industry standard format. Some miniDVD camcorders have issues with 16:9 and do NOTproperly write the file header correctly so software doesn't recognizeit as 16:9. What camcorder? Which 'mode' was the video recorded? Some miniDVD camcorders have an 'edit' mode and a 'movie' mode. The edit mode has to be finalized before a computer will recognize the disc and the files are more difficult to edit on a computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sknis Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 When using Creator 2010, what is the best way to copy a dvd file as a mpeg file format without losing 16:9 aspect ratio and with out manually changing file to mpg? As big as C2010 is there must be some way to open a sub-app of C2010, open Vob file & save to Mpg with out losing 16:9 aspect. I changed .VOB to .mpg and saved file. I checked both files with "media Info" they both are the same, so far so good. I then open the mpg copy in Windows Media Player and it plays in 4:3 ratio, 13 minute file shows only 10 seconds on slider-bar but continues playing the whole 13 min. but I lose all VIDEO CONTROL functions (can not stop, start, pause & no slider use). I then open the mpg copy in CinePlayer and it plays in 16:9 ratio, 13 minute file shows only 10 seconds on slider-bar but continues playing the whole 13 min. but I lose all VIDEO CONTROL functions again (can not stop, start, pause & no slider use). I downloaded "sdcopyV1.9991beta.zip" and tried that option to convert Vob to Mpg but same problem exist. Is there something NEW you added to the above? Posting the same thing again does not change the facts or get you an answer that you like, I don't know why the video plays at 4 by 3 in WMP but the fact it plays as 16 by 9 in CinePlayer shows that changing the name doesn't change the aspect ratio. Download and run VLC Player -free- (link) on the VOB file. If it doesn't work there, there may be a problem with the VOB file itself or your computer or... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyd Posted September 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Mini-DVD playes fine as Vob file. When I manually change file to mpg format that is when I get the aspect problems. Thanks !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyd Posted September 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Thanks ggrussell, My camera is a "Hitachi DZ-BX35A" mini-disc cam. I use the VF-mode to record & finalize disc when complete. Mini-disc plays properly on DVD & Blueray (as DVD) players into 46" Sony TV. Mini-disc also plays properly in Laptop DVD player by Win media player or CinePlayer. I copy DVD to desk top and again plays properly in Win media player or CinePlayer. Basically what I am trying to do is copy the individual scenes as separate MPG files. I thought VIDEO WAVE might work but I must not have settings right to save original aspect ratio. Video Wave offers skimpy on board help. Do you have any suggestions or know of any websites that other Video Wave users go for help? Thanks !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyd Posted September 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Downloaded & installed "vlc-1.1.4-win32.exe", Vob file plays perfectly (16:9) on this player also. I want to capture individual scenes and save as Mpg files while keeping 16:9 aspect ratio. Thanks !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Hardin Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 When you PLAY the DVD in your Player, it is the PLAYER or the TV that is converting and correctly displaying the images… It goes back to what ggrussell said, the camcorder is recording in a pseudo –16:9 format. I’ll play with one today, time permitting, but I think the only thing you can do is convert it and then add it to a VideoWave 16:9 Project with the Settings for non – 16:9 sources, set to “Fill Screen”… This “Fill Screen” is exactly what your DVD Player and/or TV are doing when they play your mini discs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Hardin Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 I did a little testing with good results Start with a New Project: Wrong Way Production Settings are set to “Show entire source”: Using either “Add Photo/Video” and Importing a VOB… Or adding a Renamed VOB: Gets the same undesired borders: However, simply changing the Production Settings to Fill Screen Gives us the result we are after!!! From VW you can either Output As and the file will be rendered as 16:9 or go directly to MyDVD with it and make a disc… You should have a disc or 2 of RW you can make a quick test with and see what you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyd Posted September 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 I GOT IT, I GOT IT !! Here’s “How to capture cuts from VOB or MPG files and save original 16:9 Aspect Ratio”. First copy Mini-DVD to desk top, back up copy to other hard drive for safety. Open "VIDEOWAVE" and on "welcome Sceen" click on "Create New Production", Format "16:9", on “More Settings” click "Show entire Source", click "OK" to save settings for new production. Next add DVD files to production. View DVD and note the time of the beginning & end of area that you want to capture. Use trim function to cut out the area you want to capture. Then you will notice that production only has the cut you want to capture. Now to save the VOB capture as a Mpeg file go up to top menus & open the "OUTPUT" menu & click "Export as...". Next the "Make Movie" window will open. Choose Destination "Videofile", Choose Purpose "TV/VCR Playback, NTSC", Video file quality "Generic mpeg2, good quality", then name file & save to desktop, then click "Create Video File". Sit back & wait !! After file is output to desktop close "Make Movie" window and return to "VIDEOWAVE". The next step is to go to top menus & open "Edit" menu & click on "Undo". That will return your full length untrimmed VOB file back to your production. Now you can capture & save the next scene you want to save & repeat above instructions. “VIDEOWAVE” seems to be an awesome application & I look forward to discovering it’s many uses ( may need to search for a book for DUMMIES). Thanks for your help & I hope this helps anybody else with the same situation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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