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I just upgraded to Roxio 2011 Pro under the expectations (based on the video demos on their site) that I could convert my videos from my FujiFilm Finepix Real3D W3 camera into red/cyan anaglyph, however, it does not seem to decode the avi files from my camera. The "Fuji 3D File" does not properly render the video sample image (as shown that it would in their tutorial.. maybe they were using the older Fujifilm W1?). I also tried all the other formats unsuccessfully.

 

The photos decode properly, just not the videos. If I play the videos with Windows Media Player, two separate video windows appear, left & right streams.

 

Anyone know what's up with Roxio 2011?

 

Thanks,

Eric

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You can find a short low res video (7.7MB) I just took of my messy desk area. A little dark since I only have a 60watt ceiling light but the results are the same as with the HD videos I was working with in Roxio 2011:

Sample Video - DSCF0029.AVI

 

When you have it opened in VideoWave as a Fuji 3D video, it appears to have taken a frame, cut it in half, and overlayed it on top of one another instead of using the two video streams in the AVI file. View Left Eye Only and then Right Eye Only... it is the left and the righ half of the image.

 

I also tried all the different video format settings, and none rendered it correctly. Plays fine on camera and with WMP (crossed eyed.. since WMP renders left/right eyes in separate video windows).

 

Again, creating anaglyph JPG's from MPO files from the camera work great. Do you really need a sample MPO file?

 

You have to pick the right choice and you may have to experiment a little, starting a new project each time...

 

post-39730-071570400 1284372854.jpg

 

If you would take a raw 5 second movie clip and post it on a sharing site we can download it and play around with it. A couple of still pics too!

 

A site I often use is UpForDown ;)

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No problem here... downloading it now.

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Major issue with Videowave 3D production. I first tried Fuji 3D and the file doesn't load correctly. It's squished. So I thought I would try loading it again to choose another 3D type. Can't do that because Videowave 'remembers' how you imported the last time. I tried relaunching Videowave, rebooting Windows and deleting the Videowave cache folder. I can't find a way to import the file using a different 3D option.

 

Whisper - how did you try the other 3D options?

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No problem here... downloading it now.

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Major issue with Videowave 3D production. I first tried Fuji 3D and the file doesn't load correctly. It's squished. So I thought I would try loading it again to choose another 3D type. Can't do that because Videowave 'remembers' how you imported the last time. I tried relaunching Videowave, rebooting Windows and deleting the Videowave cache folder. I can't find a way to import the file using a different 3D option.

 

Whisper - how did you try the other 3D options?

I have always had trouble with them!

 

3 different OS’s & 2 different Browsers and 15 messages back and forth with them until they stopped answering…

 

I can’t be bothered with them any more.

 

The important part is that you did get it and had problems and passed that on ;)

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No problem here... downloading it now.

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Major issue with Videowave 3D production. I first tried Fuji 3D and the file doesn't load correctly. It's squished. So I thought I would try loading it again to choose another 3D type. Can't do that because Videowave 'remembers' how you imported the last time. I tried relaunching Videowave, rebooting Windows and deleting the Videowave cache folder. I can't find a way to import the file using a different 3D option.

 

Whisper - how did you try the other 3D options?

 

I got around that by importing different video clips. You can try shooting and importing as many clips as there are import formats or, I would imagine, make a bunch of copies of a clip before trying to import. Here's a link to a short W3 clip of mine http://www.upfordown.com/public/pdownload/41262/DSCF7032.avi?no_history, hopefully it downloads ok. If not I can send it through yousendit.com to your email Jim.

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No problem here... downloading it now.

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Major issue with Videowave 3D production. I first tried Fuji 3D and the file doesn't load correctly. It's squished. So I thought I would try loading it again to choose another 3D type. Can't do that because Videowave 'remembers' how you imported the last time. I tried relaunching Videowave, rebooting Windows and deleting the Videowave cache folder. I can't find a way to import the file using a different 3D option.

 

Whisper - how did you try the other 3D options?

 

It seems to just render differently when I choose another format.. it then prompts me "are you sure". The sample window then renders differently, but perhaps it still has the original cached copy. Sure seems like it doesn't know that there are two video streams and always tries to grab half the frame for one eye and the other half for the right eye, whether split left/right or top/bottom. Using the Fuji setting on my system isn't really "squishing" the image, just kind of looks that way, but it is rather cutting the image down the middle and overlaying one on top of the other, resulting in a half-width image.

 

I originally was using the method Roxio showed in one of their tutorials in which they switch the 3D format correction option from the menu ... i.e. using MyDVD to begin to create a DVD. Same issue there, so I guess MyDVD uses the same caching/formatting routines that VideoWave uses?

 

However, switching to a 3D format of Analglyph[red/cyan] renders the frame perfectly, but of course it is from a single frame of just one of the streams. So the only format that makes sense is the Fuji or RealD settings... the others are for single video streams with each frame having both left and right eyes side by side.

 

Eric

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I got around that by importing different video clips.

Found out the correct way. Just RIGHT mouse click on the clip on the Time line and choose '3D format correction'. Something wrong with UpforDown this morning. I get no response at all. I'll keep trying though. Thanks for the file. I was wondering if the Fuji W3 has different resolution settings. The other file was only 320x480. Edited by ggrussell
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Found out the correct way. Just RIGHT mouse click on the clip on the Time line and choose '3D format correction'. Something wrong with UpforDown this morning. I get no response at all. I'll keep trying though. Thanks for the file. I was wondering if the Fuji W3 has different resolution settings. The other file was only 320x480.

 

Good to know. Yes the w3 shoots 320x240 640x480 and 1280x720 in 3d. Let me email the file through yousendit.com, anyone who wants a clip message me your email and I'll send you the file. Does anyone here work for Roxio? I imagine this should be a high priority issue for them. It is for me.

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Good to know. Yes the w3 shoots 320x240 640x480 and 1280x720 in 3d. Let me email the file through yousendit.com, anyone who wants a clip message me your email and I'll send you the file. Does anyone here work for Roxio? I imagine this should be a high priority issue for them. It is for me.

 

High priority for me as well... it was the ONLY reason I upgraded.

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thumbup1.gif I may think about that Fuji W3 if C2011 gets a patch to get it working.

 

A bit off topic, but since you brought it up :) ... I love the W3 and highly recommend it! I so wish I had it back when my daughter was 4... it would almost be like looking back in time to see her little again in 3D! Taking a lot of 3D videos of my dog, who I'll miss dearly when she passes. I'll have to break down and get a 3D TV one of these days, but for now the 3D display on the W3 is awesome. Do hope Roxio gets this analglyph going... nice to see they've taken notice of our problem!

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From what I was told, the W3 was released shortly before or after the release of Creator 2011. They had the Fuji W1 to work with during development. It's unfortunate that Fuji changed the file format in the W3 to cause the software not to work, but we have seen this in other brands in regular HD camcorders, too. It's great that Roxio has responded quickly for this issue and the patch may fix other issues as well.

 

I've also been looking at the Aiptek 3D HD camcorder. Have seen a sample file and not bad for a $199 camcorder. Instead of shooting two full frames, it uses the half frame L/R squeezed into one frame.

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The Aiptek 3D works and produces some stunning 2D work:

 

I did breakdown and get one from B&H... :(

 

Of course no frills like a flash or a light and I have never had a smooth zoom but that may be from trying to hold it out and operate a joy stick! Battery life is next to nothing! You will want a USB cord along for charging it on the go.

 

(I was going to uplosd a couple of shots but the board is off in never never land at the moment)

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Here is a great 3D clip taken with the Fuji W3. I wonder what software was used to convert to anaglyph.

 

Not sure what they used, but I was able to play/convert my 3D videos from my W3 camera using the following:

 

3D motion-jpeg codec (might be just a time-limited demo... not sure since it only said "demo"):

Motion JPEG Codec 3.2.4

 

and Stereo Movie Maker:

Stereo Movie Maker for Windows

Open a stereo movie file, and select a/b 100% as the input file type.

 

Installed both on my Win7 64-bit PC, and seems to work fairly well. Played it as a analglyph, and also selected to Save Stereo Movie, with the Color Anaglyph option. Note: I tried it first with the default "Full Frames Uncompressed" option, but it played very jerky in WMP (Windows Media Player). So I tried the Microsoft Video 1 option, but strangely would not play in WMP, however it played great in QuickTime. Will eventually try the other options.

 

This will hold me over until Roxio gets their fix in-place :)

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We have released the Service Pack 1 update for Creator 2011 through ISUM (SP! page will be up soon) and it should address the issue with video files recorded by W3.

 

Thanks!

 

Ivan

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We have released the Service Pack 1 update for Creator 2011 through ISUM (SP! page will be up soon) and it should address the issue with video files recorded by W3.

 

Thanks!

 

Ivan

 

I went and updated, but now all I get is "The certificate file is missing or has been corrupted. Please re-install it". And how do I do that? I can't readily see where I can re-enter my license info.

 

Update: Found a solution in the installation section of the forum. Seems McAfee AntiVirus has something to do with screwing up the install. Just turn off Real-Time Scanning and then run the RepairLicenseC2011 fix (you can turn it back on afterwards). Not sure if I had turned off McAfee this would have never happened in the first place when running the update.

 

And yes... the update works great!

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I have been interested in buying a Fujifilm W3, but was waiting for this update. After trying a few W3 3D files from the Fujifilm website, I was happy that they worked on my 3D TV. The 3D effect was great, HOWEVER... There is a rainbow line at the bottom of the screen that is always there. I have also noticed this line ONLY when selecting the Real 3D option and converting any video.

This includes converting 2D videos to 3D and then trying to watch them on my Sony Bravia LX900 3D TV.

It is very annoying and I can't make it go away.

Any ideas as to why this is? And has anyone else had this same problem? I am wondering if it's just my Sony 3D TV don't support the Real 3D format and maybe other 3D TV's do?

I really think Roxio should have an update to make videos in 3D compatible with 3DTV's that are out now, and also be able to burn BD3D disc that work in 3D bluray players, since this is the format that is being used with ALL 3D TV's.

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