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I need to edit a video where I insert a clip into the timeline and not disturb the native audio track, and keep that in the same place so the shot after is stil in sync and the new clip has the old audio running underneath it. Any ideas? At the moment if I try and split the clip, the native audio goes with the clip i cut out.

Many thanks,

Spiz "

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"Hi All,

I need to edit a video where I insert a clip into the timeline and not disturb the native audio track, and keep that in the same place so the shot after is stil in sync and the new clip has the old audio running underneath it. Any ideas? At the moment if I try and split the clip, the native audio goes with the clip i cut out.

Many thanks,

Spiz "

 

In VideoWave, in the upper right portion of the screen, you should have Media Selector docked. If not, click on View, then click on Media Selector. Once it opens, go back to View, and click on Dock Media Selector.

 

Now, in Media Selector, browse to the Video that you want to split up, and right click on it. Click on Extract Audio, and when the next screen comes up, save it to a folder on your hard drive.

 

Now, click on the Storyline button, then drag your video, from Media Selector, down to the first box/frame in Storyline. Right click on that Video, on Storyline, and select Edit Native Audio. You will see a Volume slider. Slide the marker all the way to the left, then click OK, or whatever the prompt is. This mutes the Audio of the video clip.

 

Click on the Timeline button. Go up to Media Selector again, browse to where you saved the audio file, and drag that down to the Music track in Timeline.

 

You can now edit the video, without losing and audio, but to sync it, with the edited video, may require making your splits, then going back to Storyline view, and putting in a transition between the splits, then going back to Timeline view and slide the audio to make it match up.

 

If I am understanding correctly, what you want to do, it is going to be a trial and error situation.

 

Hopefully, someone else will drop in and suggest an easier way to do it. I haven't done what you want to do, in a few years.

 

Let us know how it goes for you.

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In VideoWave, in the upper right portion of the screen, you should have Media Selector docked. If not, click on View, then click on Media Selector. Once it opens, go back to View, and click on Dock Media Selector.

 

Now, in Media Selector, browse to the Video that you want to split up, and right click on it. Click on Extract Audio, and when the next screen comes up, save it to a folder on your hard drive.

 

Now, click on the Storyline button, then drag your video, from Media Selector, down to the first box/frame in Storyline. Right click on that Video, on Storyline, and select Edit Native Audio. You will see a Volume slider. Slide the marker all the way to the left, then click OK, or whatever the prompt is. This mutes the Audio of the video clip.

 

Click on the Timeline button. Go up to Media Selector again, browse to where you saved the audio file, and drag that down to the Music track in Timeline.

 

You can now edit the video, without losing and audio, but to sync it, with the edited video, may require making your splits, then going back to Storyline view, and putting in a transition between the splits, then going back to Timeline view and slide the audio to make it match up.

 

If I am understanding correctly, what you want to do, it is going to be a trial and error situation.

 

Hopefully, someone else will drop in and suggest an easier way to do it. I haven't done what you want to do, in a few years.

 

Let us know how it goes for you.

 

Hiya, Thanks for the help. I did get that far, and although the audio is in tact when I split the main video, it does all move out of sync. In other programmes I have used you can lock the video to a set position and if you cut a section out, the rest stays in sync. Alternatively, there would be a second video channel to allow for a clip to be cyt to and then back to the original video clip. When making a movie, and a cut away is required of say a close up or an establishing shot etc, this is a very common thing to do, but I cannot for the life of me see how this can be right at the moment. If it goes out of sync each time this will take ages to do!! Not really sure of the answer?

 

Anyone have any experience of this?

Many thanks,

 

Spiz

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Hiya, Thanks for the help. I did get that far, and although the audio is in tact when I split the main video, it does all move out of sync. In other programmes I have used you can lock the video to a set position and if you cut a section out, the rest stays in sync. Alternatively, there would be a second video channel to allow for a clip to be cyt to and then back to the original video clip. When making a movie, and a cut away is required of say a close up or an establishing shot etc, this is a very common thing to do, but I cannot for the life of me see how this can be right at the moment. If it goes out of sync each time this will take ages to do!! Not really sure of the answer?

 

Anyone have any experience of this?

Many thanks,

 

Spiz

 

I told you that it would be tough to do, but did you try putting transitions between the split clips?

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I told you that it would be tough to do, but did you try putting transitions between the split clips?

 

Hiya, what kind of transitions? I couldn't find a straight cut ikon, only disolves etc, which dont work with the footage...??? is there a straight cut transition?

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If I'm correctly reading your post, you should be able to add the b-roll to an overlay track, mute its audio, and cut out the parts of it you don't want. Your original clip with the audio would run underneath it without being out of sync with the original audio.

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If I'm correctly reading your post, you should be able to add the b-roll to an overlay track, mute its audio, and cut out the parts of it you don't want. Your original clip with the audio would run underneath it without being out of sync with the original audio.

 

 

Hiya thanks for your reply.

Im not sure what a B roll is and where do I add an overlay track? Are you saying that I add the video to an overlay track as well as the same video in the Video track and edit the video track and the overlay track rund underneath? Or the other way round. At the moment, when I cut a shot out of the Video track the footage after it all moves up and therefore is out of sinc. If I can add video to the overlay track, will this not also act in the same way?

 

Many thanks,

 

Spiz

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I think you want one track to play undisturbed with its audio intact, while other, shorter video clips appear throughout on top of it. If that is so, try reading through this thread, but instead of muting both tracks, do not mute your main track audio, only mute the shorter segments (overlays) that you want to be silent while the main track's audio plays through.

 

Let us know if this helps, or you need something different :)

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Hiya,

 

What I need to achieve is this.

I have a Theatre show which runs for say 40 mins. The show is the show, that is to say, there are no bits I want to cut out. All the dialogue must stay in the same place and in the same order so it makes sense.

I need to insert close up shots of some parts or cut away shots of the audience. Clearly when this happens the ausio needs to carry on uninterupted undermeath the inserted clips.

 

At the moment, I have added a second sound track and have muted the track on the Video clip. When i split the video clip, and delete the shot I have split, everything after that clip moves up and goes out of sync. I then have to insert my new clip where the other clip was, but it has to be exacly the same length as the clip I removed in order for the rest of the track to go back into sync. RThis is very time consuming.

 

Is there a better way. On other programmes I have used, they provide another video track so you can insert a clip where you want it, and add a cut or other transition to tell the timeline to cut to the new clip at that position and back again.

Or if the video tracke can be locked into position? That would work?

 

Many thanks,

 

Spiz

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Did you read through the thread I linked to? Put your main video with audio on the main track and then add your secondary shots on an overlay track. You can slide them around to wherever you want them to cover the main track. Mute the audio on the overlay track, and leave the audio alone on the main track.

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Perhaps this will help -- Think covering and not cutting.

 

You use the overlay to cover the video on the main track. You mau have to cut/delete/move parts of the overlay.

 

Creator handles audio as part of the video and not as a separate track.

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Hiya, SORTED!!! Thank you Karri!! You are a star.I was trying to copy a clip on the video timeline to paste it into the Overlay track, but it wasn't doing it. Just dragged a clip from the media selector, and it works fine.

Thanks again.

 

Spiz

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One quickie just realised that if my main clip runs for a long time, I need to use a smaller clip on the overlay track. How can I chose the segment I want to re use from the main clip? can it be trimmed down before I place it on the overlay track?

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Click on Show/Hide Tracks and click Add Overlay. This will add another overlay track and you can drag the next instance onto the new overlay track and trim it without bothering your other overlays.

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That's me sorted!! Is Videowave in 10 or eleven any different from )9 version do you know?

Is it work getting?

 

Videowave seems to work pretty much the same in the newer versions, although the new version has motion stabilization and 3D capabilities.

 

Also, I should have mentioned, while you can't trim before you add the clip, you can create scenes, and then just add the one scene you need at a time (drag from media bin).

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Perhaps this will help -- Think covering and not cutting.

 

You use the overlay to cover the video on the main track. You mau have to cut/delete/move parts of the overlay.

 

Creator handles audio as part of the video and not as a separate track.

 

 

Good point Steve, thanks. It's also confusing because the overlays actually go under the Main track, even though they end up on top :blink:

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