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Hello Roxio-Mates...I have a question or maybe it's a concern. I have searched this forum for an hour and couldn't find what I was looking for.

 

So maybe someone can help point me in the right direction. Here we go...

 

I have no problems burning a DVD or creating menus, etc. via C2011. One of the features that I truly love about C2011 is that utilizes the highest image or video quality acheivable to fill up the blank DVD/BRD. Thumbs up!

 

However, when it actually burns and completes the project...I notice that the disk is about have full when the program showed that there would be approx. 40MB left on the disk after the disk was created.

 

So how is C2011 that far off with expected disk space necessary to actual disk space used when the projected was burned on the disk?

 

Is there a setting that I am missing? I have a Quad Core processor - does this make a difference when rendering?

 

Thanks for any assistance you can provide,

 

Jon

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Hello Roxio-Mates...I have a question or maybe it's a concern. I have searched this forum for an hour and couldn't find what I was looking for.

 

So maybe someone can help point me in the right direction. Here we go...

 

I have no problems burning a DVD or creating menus, etc. via C2011. One of the features that I truly love about C2011 is that utilizes the highest image or video quality acheivable to fill up the blank DVD/BRD. Thumbs up!

 

However, when it actually burns and completes the project...I notice that the disk is about have full when the program showed that there would be approx. 40MB left on the disk after the disk was created.

 

So how is C2011 that far off with expected disk space necessary to actual disk space used when the projected was burned on the disk?

 

Is there a setting that I am missing? I have a Quad Core processor - does this make a difference when rendering?

 

Thanks for any assistance you can provide,

 

Jon

 

The highest quality available is the HQ setting, anything else gives lower quality. The worst setting to use is the "Fit-to-disc" setting which it sounds like you are using. It certainly does not use the "highest image or video quality". We have continually complained how useless the "Fit-disc" setting is but nobody listens.

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To add to what Walt said, the HQ setting is the best to use, and lets you put an hour of video onto a single layer DVD. If you only have 1/2 hour of video, then it will only fill half of your DVD. So, the question would be, how long time-wise is the video you wrote to DVD?

 

Yes - I am using "Fit to Disk" and the length of the home videos is just under 3 hours. I'm burning on to a DVD+R DL which holds roughly 8.5GB, but when the burn process is complete and I check the properties of the disk, it shows only about 4.23GB used. Doesn't make sense.

 

So, if I hard set C2011 to let's say..."SP", then the disk will be burned the full 8.5GB? BTW...I can't use HQ setting with the length of this video.

 

Thanks again,

 

Jon

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You are really asking a lot expecting anything decent with more than 1 hour (4.7) or 2 hours (8.5) on a DVD...

 

This is what DVD's hold:

 

4.7Gb:

HQ = 1:06

SP = 1:37

LP = 2:22

ELP = 3:04

 

8.5 Gb:

HQ = 2:00

SP = 2:57

LP = 4:19

ELP = 5:35

 

Menus hae to be HQ to work... Workaround ~ Here

 

Sir,

 

Thanks for your response.

 

My issue isn't the quality and I know that the longer the video, the more the quality suffers.

 

My issue is why does the disk only get half full after being burned when C2011 says I should only have @40MB left of disk space available with the settings I am using?

 

Thanks,

 

Jon

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Yes - I am using "Fit to Disk" and the length of the home videos is just under 3 hours. I'm burning on to a DVD+R DL which holds roughly 8.5GB, but when the burn process is complete and I check the properties of the disk, it shows only about 4.23GB used. Doesn't make sense.

 

So, if I hard set C2011 to let's say..."SP", then the disk will be burned the full 8.5GB? BTW...I can't use HQ setting with the length of this video.

 

Thanks again,

 

Jon

 

"Fit-to-disc" is useless, forget about it.

 

There is no setting that you can use that will "fill up a disc". The SP setting will not work either since your video is > 3hours. You will have to try the LP setting. This will of course not fill the whole DL DVD. Your best option is to split the video into 2 and put 90 minutes on each DL DVD at the HQ setting or use 3 standard DVDs.

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"Fit-to-disc" is useless, forget about it.

 

There is no setting that you can use that will "fill up a disc". The SP setting will not work either since your video is > 3hours. You will have to try the LP setting. This will of course not fill the whole DL DVD. Your best option is to split the video into 2 and put 90 minutes on each DL DVD at the HQ setting or use 3 standard DVDs.

 

Ok...thanks everyone.

 

Jon

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My issue is why does the disk only get half full after being burned when C2011 says I should only have @40MB left of disk space available with the settings I am using?

Jon,

 

If you're using MyDVD, aside from adjusting the Quality box at the bottom right of the application, have you adjusted the Disc Size box at the bottom left?

 

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Failing to change this from 4.7 to 8.5 GB would produce the symptoms you're seeing.

 

Brendon

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Jon,

 

If you're using MyDVD, aside from adjusting the Quality box at the bottom right of the application, have you adjusted the Disc Size box at the bottom left?

 

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Failing to change this from 4.7 to 8.5 GB would produce the symptoms you're seeing.

 

Brendon

 

Yes Sir I have.

 

I have screenshots. The JPeg labeled "File Size 1" is of C2011. If you noticed, with the setting of "Fit to Disk", it appears that I have 41.1MB of disk space left. So I burn the video to DVD and wait roughly a half hour.

 

Now on to screenshot 2 labeled "File Size 2." I take that same DVD+R DL disk and open up "My Computer" to check the properities of that disk. It shows it full but only at 4.23GB. The quality of the video is terrible.

 

It's like the second layer of the DVD+R DL doesn't identify or something along those lines. However, I have never had this kind of problem before when using a DL DVD. Whether it was a game, movie, or data on a DL disk, Properties for the disk always showed accurate information with the amount of data.

 

This is really strange.

 

Jon

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Thanks Jon,

 

I just wanted to check the state of that "Disc Size" setting, and you've eliminated that for me.

 

Someone else is working on the abysmal performance of the 'fit to disc' routine which seems to be only half-filling your discs.

 

Regards,

Brendon

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Yes Sir I have.

 

I have screenshots. The JPeg labeled "File Size 1" is of C2011. If you noticed, with the setting of "Fit to Disk", it appears that I have 41.1MB of disk space left. So I burn the video to DVD and wait roughly a half hour.

 

Now on to screenshot 2 labeled "File Size 2." I take that same DVD+R DL disk and open up "My Computer" to check the properities of that disk. It shows it full but only at 4.23GB. The quality of the video is terrible.

 

It's like the second layer of the DVD+R DL doesn't identify or something along those lines. However, I have never had this kind of problem before when using a DL DVD. Whether it was a game, movie, or data on a DL disk, Properties for the disk always showed accurate information with the amount of data.

 

This is really strange.

 

Jon

 

I have noticed this years ago with other versions (and posted it in the forum) and that is why "Fit-to-disc" is crap.

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Jon, I did some testing today with DL discs and Fit to Disc, and cannot support your results.

 

Knowing a DL will only hold 2:57 at SP, I set up a 2:55 project and burned to ISO:

 

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Then I burned directly to a DL disc:

 

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You can retry the ISO route, but I suspect you did not set it to DL…

 

In any case, if you use Fit to Disc and it drops to SP, you will end up with 352 X 480 resolution. This is the default for SP unless you manually set it to use SP and then set the resolution to a higher setting.

 

This is why we try to steer novice users away from letting the program make the decisions. It invariable makes poor choices :lol:

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