Is 1080P Import Possible?

[timj]

I am looking to buy a Panasonic HD camcorder, and it allows you to shoot in 1080p. On their website it sounds like only their software can import 1080p. Question: can I import video shot in 1080p and edit? It's not a deal-buster on the camcorder, as I can dumb it down, but would like to keep 1080p if possible.

 

Anyone out there have the answer?

[Jim_Hardin]

There have been some problems with 24mbps but the 1080 has nothing to do with anything...

 

Can you link to the page where it says that on Panasonic's site?

[timj]

There have been some problems with 24mbps but the 1080 has nothing to do with anything...

 

Can you link to the page where it says that on Panasonic's site?

 

It wasn't on the actual panasonic site, but was in a couple of the reviews. I copied and have included the following quote from a review by Camcorderinfo.com

 

"The big downside, however, is that the TM700's 60p mode isn't compatible with most editing programs. Panasonic's provided software does allow you to view the 60p footage on a computer (PC only), but we couldn't get the clips to work with any of our third-party editing programs (like iMovie, Adobe Premiere, or Final Cut Express). So, if you shoot with the 60p mode on the HDC-TM700, you should be prepared for the difficulties of working with the footage."

 

I took it be that the 60p mode was done in 1080p.(?)

[ggrussell]

Creator 2011 supports 1080p 60fps input and output in AVCHD.

[timj]

Creator 2011 supports 1080p 60fps input and output in AVCHD.

Great! Thanks

[timj]

Great! Thanks

 

Final word on 1080p. The camcorder I was looking at is the HDC-TM700 by Panasonic. Below is an except that clears it up for me. While Roxio out of the box will import 1080p perhaps, it possibly won't be able to from the Panasonic, as you read below. Not a deal buster, but something to be aware of and ask when buying camcorders.

 

 

The camcorder uses traditional AVCHD compression for every shooting mode other than the 1080/60p setting.

• The 60p setting uses a Panasonic original format based on the MPEG-4 codec. It is not compatible with most editing programs, but Panasonic's provided software does allow you to view 60p clips shot with the TM700.

• The camcorder includes 32GB of internal flash memory and an SD/SDHC/SDXC card slot.

• The provided editing software is the same program that was included with the Panasonic HDC-HS60.

[sknis]

Final word on 1080p. The camcorder I was looking at is the HDC-TM700 by Panasonic. Below is an except that clears it up for me. While Roxio out of the box will import 1080p perhaps, it possibly won't be able to from the Panasonic, as you read below. Not a deal buster, but something to be aware of and ask when buying camcorders.

 

 

The camcorder uses traditional AVCHD compression for every shooting mode other than the 1080/60p setting.

• The 60p setting uses a Panasonic original format based on the MPEG-4 codec. It is not compatible with most editing programs, but Panasonic's provided software does allow you to view 60p clips shot with the TM700.

• The camcorder includes 32GB of internal flash memory and an SD/SDHC/SDXC card slot.

• The provided editing software is the same program that was included with the Panasonic HDC-HS60.

 

It seems that the text you quoted is :

 

1) Old or

2) Tries to cover up the fact that Panasonic (along with Sony and a few others) do not comply with the industry standards or

3) Designed to trick you into buying software.

 

mpeg4 codec is pretty universally supported. A source I looked at said that the camcorder does: Video Format High Definition MPEG AVC/H.264, 1920 x 1080p (60 fps)

 

Creator 2011 can support these formats IF they meet the standard. At worse, you can use a third part converter to get that video to a standard format.

 

"Video: AVI, DV, HDV, DV-AVI, MPEG-1/2/4, MPEG2-HD, DVD-Video, IFO/VOB, XviD, DVR-MS, TiVo, ASF, MOV, WMV, QuickTime, 3GP, MPEG2 Transport Stream, AVC (H.264), AVCHD, MKV

 

Audio: Audio CD, MP3, WAV, WMA, Dolby® Digital AC-3, AAC, Ogg Vorbis, FLAC, M4A, MP4, Playlists (WPL, ASX, M3U, PLS, XSPF)

 

Image: MPO, JPG, PNG, TIFF, BMP, GIF

[timj]

Well the review is from Camcorderinfo.com, and was done on March 20 of 2010, so as far as reviews go, it is pretty up to date. I don't understand the comment that the review was trying to 'cover up' anything. It was the only review I found that gave more information on the fact that panasonic is using their own 'version' of Mpeg 4, which is why not all programs can edit data shot in 1080p. Since I haven't purchased the camcorder yet, I don't know if Roxio can handle that resolution or not. I was just trying to let people know of a potential problem. If anyone has experience with this camcorder and Roxio 2011 let me know.

 

But thanks anyway.

[Jim_Hardin]

Handle the resolution!!!

 

Roxio has been able to do that for years, the last 4 version in fact!

 

Steve is refering to the reviewer who is sugar coating the fact that Panasonic is useing an uncommon framerate and a non-standard codec to make up for it!

 

Canon is doing a similar tact wtih 24 fps and most editors have trouble with it and I think even fewer can output it onto media...

 

Like the Panasonic, it you can't output it, there is little point in wasting time using it

[timj]

Handle the resolution!!!

 

Roxio has been able to do that for years, the last 4 version in fact!

 

Steve is refering to the reviewer who is sugar coating the fact that Panasonic is useing an uncommon framerate and a non-standard codec to make up for it!

 

Canon is doing a similar tact wtih 24 fps and most editors have trouble with it and I think even fewer can output it onto media...

 

Like the Panasonic, it you can't output it, there is little point in wasting time using it

I agree with what you are saying. If in fact, Roxio is unable to import 1080p because of the way panasonic does it, 1080i is perfectly fine with me

[ggrussell]

If you can find some sample TM700 1080p60 files, we would be more that happy to check them out. I've Googled and didn't find any right away.

[Jim_Hardin]

No, you have missed everything we have been trying to tell you...

 

1080 is a resolution and Roxio has been able to use it. 'I' or 'P' is absolutely meaningless!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

It is the 60 fps Frame Rate that is presenting problems to all editors except the custom one Panasonic includes!

 

Easy to fix, use a different recording mode and never look back!