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Lip Syncing Two Video Recordings In Pip Mode


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1. As church videographer I record programs using a fixed closed circuit camera system with a DVD recorder in the loop. While that is running by itself, I would like to take close-up shots with a hand held video cam, (on a tripod, natch) and use that footage as an overlay (with sound muted) on top the Closed Circuit recording imported into Roxio (with active sound track) running as the back ground. This all seems very logical to me, but I get totally lost trying to position the close-up overlay, such that the lip movement is in sync with with the background sound track. Is there any easy way of precisely moving the start of an overlay in the My DVD Creator module of Roxio 2010? And then can I lock the position of the overlay in place so it doesn't shift as I edit further down the video?

 

2. I've been following this site for 4 years, and have learned lot's; first as a Roxio 8 user, and have eagerly up-graded until I got to version 2010, where I lost so much function* that I'm now afraid to upgrade again. *From Roxio 10 to 2010, it now takes about 27 mouse clicks to "save my work" in My DVD Creator, and return back to where I left off; not to mention the haphazard scroll advance, as well as random cursor jump after deleting stray noises in Audio Edit module. Roxio lost a lot of ground with that upgrade. I've been looking for some input that 2011 was "safe," and not another step backward, and would really like to advance the 2011 Pro to take advantage of the "sound soap module." I have some very old VHS tape footage that has picked up a really bad 60 Hz hum from improper storage, that I'd love to rescue the sound track, and re-use it with new video footage. But it's a lot of money to pay for a pig in a poke. Any of you guru's have any experience with this product?

 

I am running 2010 on an Acer AM3300

6 GB Ram

1 TB Hard Drive

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1. As church videographer I record programs using a fixed closed circuit camera system with a DVD recorder in the loop. While that is running by itself, I would like to take close-up shots with a hand held video cam, (on a tripod, natch) and use that footage as an overlay (with sound muted) on top the Closed Circuit recording imported into Roxio (with active sound track) running as the back ground. This all seems very logical to me, but I get totally lost trying to position the close-up overlay, such that the lip movement is in sync with with the background sound track. Is there any easy way of precisely moving the start of an overlay in the My DVD Creator module of Roxio 2010? And then can I lock the position of the overlay in place so it doesn't shift as I edit further down the video?

 

2. I've been following this site for 4 years, and have learned lot's; first as a Roxio 8 user, and have eagerly up-graded until I got to version 2010, where I lost so much function* that I'm now afraid to upgrade again. *From Roxio 10 to 2010, it now takes about 27 mouse clicks to "save my work" in My DVD Creator, and return back to where I left off; not to mention the haphazard scroll advance, as well as random cursor jump after deleting stray noises in Audio Edit module. Roxio lost a lot of ground with that upgrade. I've been looking for some input that 2011 was "safe," and not another step backward, and would really like to advance the 2011 Pro to take advantage of the "sound soap module." I have some very old VHS tape footage that has picked up a really bad 60 Hz hum from improper storage, that I'd love to rescue the sound track, and re-use it with new video footage. But it's a lot of money to pay for a pig in a poke. Any of you guru's have any experience with this product?

 

I am running 2010 on an Acer AM3300

6 GB Ram

1 TB Hard Drive

 

I have no idea what you a referring to by this statement: "From Roxio 10 to 2010, it now takes about 27 mouse clicks to "save my work" in My DVD Creator". Saving a myDVD project should take only a couple of clicks.

 

As to the sync problem, I doubt you will have much luck trying to get the two videos in sync. I would think that both videos would have to be the same format, bitrate,etc .

You could create a split in the main video and then select the video clip to the right of the split. Then select the internal track and add your overlay video there. You will have to do frame by frame adjustment to try and get the two audios matched.

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I cannot see any way to simplify lip sync when adding an overlay…

 

It might be better to use the handheld (on tripod?) for the whole movie and add wideviews as the overlays.

 

I really do not understand your ’Save’ claim??? All I do is click File Save – done! A Ctrl-S will do the same thing.

 

Please expand on that, you may be doing too much unnecessary work.

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I cannot see any way to simplify lip sync when adding an overlay…

 

It might be better to use the handheld (on tripod?) for the whole movie and add wideviews as the overlays.

 

I really do not understand your ’Save’ claim??? All I do is click File Save – done! A Ctrl-S will do the same thing.

 

Please expand on that, you may be doing too much unnecessary work.

 

 

 

In all previous versions of Roxio, I could save my work simply by clicking on the file drop down menu (farthest left on the menu bar at the top of the screen). With version 2010, the "save file" option on the drop down menu is "greyed out" -- meaning it does not funtion, and the only way I have figured out how to save my work is to:

 

1. Click on the "Back to MyDVD" box to the left of the "add test" box on the second menu bar line, and patiently wait to go back to the menu editing screen.

 

2. I can now click on the File Drop down menu.

 

3. I can now click on the save file option, which IS now fully functional.

 

4. I can now right click on the "video" I was editing.

 

5. From the menu that then drops down, I can now sellect "edit Video" and click again.

 

6. This brings me back into the edit mode, but alas nowhere near where I left off, rather at the very begining of the video. Typically, I edit recordings of events one hour or longer, the farther along I get in dediting, the more important it becomes to save my work, but the more mouse clips I need to use to get exactly back to where I left off in order to save.

 

Part of the editing I do is to put chapter markers in at appropriate places, as I use these to deliniate track beginnings when I rip the sound track of the DVD off to make an audio CD as well. I try to save at exactly the latest chapter marker, and then can go back to that exact same spot by clicking on the advance to next chapter button until I get there. Typically, I'm up to 20 or more chapters by the time I get close to the end. Add that to the 6 clicks necessary to save, I get 27 with 21 chapters. If you know of a faster way, I'm all ears. I'm probably in the minority, but switching to Roxio 2010 added considerable extra grief to my editing process in both video and audio projects, which is why I'm hesitant to upgrade again.

 

Peace & thanks for your help.

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In all previous versions of Roxio, I could save my work simply by clicking on the file drop down menu (farthest left on the menu bar at the top of the screen). With version 2010, the "save file" option on the drop down menu is "greyed out" -- meaning it does not funtion, and the only way I have figured out how to save my work is to:

 

1. Click on the "Back to MyDVD" box to the left of the "add test" box on the second menu bar line, and patiently wait to go back to the menu editing screen.

 

2. I can now click on the File Drop down menu.

 

3. I can now click on the save file option, which IS now fully functional.

 

4. I can now right click on the "video" I was editing.

 

5. From the menu that then drops down, I can now sellect "edit Video" and click again.

 

6. This brings me back into the edit mode, but alas nowhere near where I left off, rather at the very begining of the video. Typically, I edit recordings of events one hour or longer, the farther along I get in dediting, the more important it becomes to save my work, but the more mouse clips I need to use to get exactly back to where I left off in order to save.

 

Part of the editing I do is to put chapter markers in at appropriate places, as I use these to deliniate track beginnings when I rip the sound track of the DVD off to make an audio CD as well. I try to save at exactly the latest chapter marker, and then can go back to that exact same spot by clicking on the advance to next chapter button until I get there. Typically, I'm up to 20 or more chapters by the time I get close to the end. Add that to the 6 clicks necessary to save, I get 27 with 21 chapters. If you know of a faster way, I'm all ears. I'm probably in the minority, but switching to Roxio 2010 added considerable extra grief to my editing process in both video and audio projects, which is why I'm hesitant to upgrade again.

 

Peace & thanks for your help.

 

Why are you doing your video editing in myDVD? Why not use the program that was designed for editing video: Videowave?

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Walt nailed it!

 

You are using the wrong program!!!

 

VideoWave (Edit Video-Advanced) is your Editor.

 

MyDVD is an Authoring program and should never be used for edits! (personally, I wish Roxio would remove the Edit Movie function from MyDVD)

 

Now you know how to do it correctly, Edit in VideoWave until you have everything right. Only then do you go to MyDVD.

 

For chapters, set markers in VideoWave and when you get to MyDVD you can use (dare I admit it) Edit Movie to convert those Markers into Chapters.

 

Take a look at this posting, Here. It covers that along with scenes and has screen caps.

 

Let us know how you make out??? That is some pretty extensive editing with time constraints thrown in ;)

 

Curious, do you get any requests for conversions to iPad, phones, etc. yet?

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Walt nailed it!

 

You are using the wrong program!!!

 

VideoWave (Edit Video-Advanced) is your Editor.

 

MyDVD is an Authoring program and should never be used for edits! (personally, I wish Roxio would remove the Edit Movie function from MyDVD)

 

Now you know how to do it correctly, Edit in VideoWave until you have everything right. Only then do you go to MyDVD.

 

For chapters, set markers in VideoWave and when you get to MyDVD you can use (dare I admit it) Edit Movie to convert those Markers into Chapters.

 

Take a look at this posting, Here. It covers that along with scenes and has screen caps.

 

Let us know how you make out??? That is some pretty extensive editing with time constraints thrown in ;)

 

Curious, do you get any requests for conversions to iPad, phones, etc. yet?

 

 

1. Thank you very much, Mr. Hardin, for your detailed, and obviously well constructed response. I will certainly try your suggestions on starting out in VideoWave with the next program I edit. All these years I had interpreted the sketchy instructions that Roxio packs with their product as stating that a beginning user should start editing with the edit module in MyDVD (easier to use, with its somewhat limited functions), and then switch over to VideoWave once one is ready to take on some of the more sophisticated features offered in in the full fledged program. Since it appeared to me that the Edit Module in MyDVD was capable of doing everything I needed, I was happy staying with it. Inertia has always been a great hindrance to progress.

 

2. To answer your closing question, I think I am now on the cusp of that happening. One user has requested me to e-mail audio files of programs while "snow birding" in Mexico. The mails just aren't reliable enough to mail CD's. WAV files for an hours worth of sound tracks are just way to big, and even low quality mp3 format still exceeds AOL's 25 Meg limit on e-mail enclosures. I find that WMA compression cuts the size down further to about 1/6 the size of an mp3 file, but still maintains excellent quality in reproducing the human voice. If you have any thoughts on this, I'd love to hear them, as it seems to me that sending electronic files across the ether has to be much kinder to the planet than producing countless little plastic disks that probably take millennia to decompose.

 

Peace & Thanks Much.

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1. Thank you very much, Mr. Hardin, for your detailed, and obviously well constructed response. I will certainly try your suggestions on starting out in VideoWave with the next program I edit. All these years I had interpreted the sketchy instructions that Roxio packs with their product as stating that a beginning user should start editing with the edit module in MyDVD (easier to use, with its somewhat limited functions), and then switch over to VideoWave once one is ready to take on some of the more sophisticated features offered in in the full fledged program. Since it appeared to me that the Edit Module in MyDVD was capable of doing everything I needed, I was happy staying with it. Inertia has always been a great hindrance to progress.

 

2. To answer your closing question, I think I am now on the cusp of that happening. One user has requested me to e-mail audio files of programs while "snow birding" in Mexico. The mails just aren't reliable enough to mail CD's. WAV files for an hours worth of sound tracks are just way to big, and even low quality mp3 format still exceeds AOL's 25 Meg limit on e-mail enclosures. I find that WMA compression cuts the size down further to about 1/6 the size of an mp3 file, but still maintains excellent quality in reproducing the human voice. If you have any thoughts on this, I'd love to hear them, as it seems to me that sending electronic files across the ether has to be much kinder to the planet than producing countless little plastic disks that probably take millennia to decompose.

 

Peace & Thanks Much.

 

Once you have created a project in myDVD using its editor there is no way you can switch to Videowave and do more extensive edits. The edit module in myDVD has actually all the functions of the standalone Videowave but juo just can't save the project as a dmsm.

 

Regarding sending electronic files, have you thought about using one of the many free upload sites for uploading the files and then have your clients download them One such site that I use is UpForDown. You have 10GB storage space and can upload files up to 300mb per file

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