Slow Motion From 60 Fps Video On Pc

[Woodkayaker]

I just got a Go Pro HD camera, capable of shooting 60 FPS at 720P (AVI file). I am interested in using the 60 frames per second to create some smooth slow motion effects. I currently own Media Creator 10, and need to have a question answered before I decide to upgrade to Media Creator 11.

 

Is MC11 capable of utilizing the full 60 frames per second, or will it convert it down to 30 (or 29 point-whatever) before I am able to adjust the speed? I want SMOOTH slo-mo... I don't want a lot of frames dropped out in the process of editing.

 

If MC11 is not able to do this, is there a way to first change the 60FPS footage prior to importing it, in order to retain all of the frames? I am not a computer expert - I need a very user-friendly way to do this. I have attached a sample file shot in 60 FPS 720P.

(added note - apparently the attachment did not work)

[Jim_Hardin]

That’s a really good question…

 

Why don’t you shoot a couple of 5 seconds shots and put them on a site like UpForDown.

 

We will download them and run them to see what we can make with them.

 

Do one that is relatively still and another that has action. stand in the street and shoot cars coming at you Just kidding!

 

I am 99% sure that VideoWave will convert it to 29 fps when added but it will be fun to try.

 

But unless your camcorder uses TAPE you don't import them at all, simply copy the files to your drive.

[Woodkayaker]

That’s a really good question…

 

Why don’t you shoot a couple of 5 seconds shots and put them on a site like UpForDown.

 

We will download them and run them to see what we can make with them.

 

Do one that is relatively still and another that has action. stand in the street and shoot cars coming at you Just kidding!

 

I am 99% sure that VideoWave will convert it to 29 fps when added but it will be fun to try.

 

But unless your camcorder uses TAPE you don't import them at all, simply copy the files to your drive.

 

Thank you, Jim! I have a 30-something second video test that I shot, and I'm uploading it right now - and thank you for the suggestion about "Upfordown" file hosting. Looks like a very handy site. I am also uploading two 5 second clips as you suggested. I have used video wave with the 30-something second clip already, but it apparently drops half of the frames out, since it runs at normal speed... at least, that's what I'm guessing.

 

If this is not already a feature of Media Creator, it would definitely be a good upgrade.

 

Here is the first (longer) clip:

http://www.upfordown.com/files/download/10187/GOPR0018%20R3%20720P%20%40%2060%20FPS.MP4

 

and the two 5 second clips:

http://www.upfordown.com/files/download/10187/GOPR0021.MP4

http://www.upfordown.com/files/download/10187/GOPR0022.MP4

 

Thank you so much, for your offer of help! I really do like my Media Creator 10, and hope that upgrading will "get me where I want to go"!

[Jim_Hardin]

I did get one of them (me and site are not getting along today )

 

It is working better than I expected! I have it up to 13 minutes long, from 7 second original.

 

I want to burn it to BD and throw it on my TV for a look.

 

I'll then clip it to a shorter time and post a sample for you to download and look at

[ggrussell]

Videowave does support 60FPS output to file, but I don't know if MyDVD supports 60fps when output to disc. Something that needs to be tried for sure.

[Woodkayaker]

I did get one of them (me and site are not getting along today )

 

It is working better than I expected! I have it up to 13 minutes long, from 7 second original.

 

I want to burn it to BD and throw it on my TV for a look.

 

I'll then clip it to a shorter time and post a sample for you to download and look at

 

So you took approximately 420 frames (7 seconds x 60 FPS), and stretched them out to (approx) 1.8 seconds per frame, to get 13 minutes? Or... did video wave convert it to 29 FPS, and then you stretched it out to about 3.6 seconds per frame, in order to achieve that 13 minute clip?

 

That is the thing I am wondering, because I want to maintain the full number of frames that are included in the original file. Mind you, I'm new at tapping into the frame rate changing aspect of the program, so this is all new to me. Obviously, I need to play with the program a bit more, just to fully understand what you are describing here.

 

If it is actually utilizing all 60 FPS, then I am mainly interested in stretching 60 frames out to TWO seconds (changing the 7 second clip to 14 seconds), to achieve the smoothest slow motion possible... at least... as smooth as the regular 30FPS footage normally is. I like to use my camera for kayak fishing. I think it could be pretty spectacular, to be battling a decent-sized fish at the surface, and go into slo-mo for some of the head-shaking, tail-walking action.

 

Don

[Woodkayaker]

Videowave does support 60FPS output to file, but I don't know if MyDVD supports 60fps when output to disc. Something that needs to be tried for sure.

 

You are saying that videowave takes the 60 FPS footage, and it does not convert the footage to 30FPS while saving it to file, prior to disc-burning?

[Jim_Hardin]

Correct!

 

It does ‘indicate’ 29 fps in the interface and that may be a proxy file it is using.

 

Here are some I did:

 

Original:

 

At 1/10th:

 

At 1/100th

 

You still have limits on how far you can slow before you get jerky movements, even 60 fps will get jerky at some point…

 

This one you can take a look at. It is the last part of your clip, slowed to 1/10th normal speed: http://www.upfordown.com/files/download/4094/1%20tenth.mp4

[Woodkayaker]

Thank you for the illustrations!

 

I attempted to do the same thing on my Media Creator 10, and in the "Video File Quality", I did not see "Same as original" as an option, so I guess that's one of the changes in MC11? Also, I am not seeing (or maybe not understanding) where you actually made the speed change to 1/10th of original speed?

 

Don

[bimicher]

Thank you for the illustrations!

 

I attempted to do the same thing on my Media Creator 10, and in the "Video File Quality", I did not see "Same as original" as an option, so I guess that's one of the changes in MC11? Also, I am not seeing (or maybe not understanding) where you actually made the speed change to 1/10th of original speed?

 

Don

 

When you say "Media Creator 10" what program are you talking about? Easy Media Creator 10 (which is now 4 versions old) or the 2 version old Roxio Creator 2010? Those are completely different programs and it is best to use the correct names to avoid a lot of confusion.

 

There is also no such program as MC11, the correct name is Roxio Creator 2011, shortened to C2011 here in the forums.

[sknis]

Thank you for the illustrations!

 

I attempted to do the same thing on my Media Creator 10, and in the "Video File Quality", I did not see "Same as original" as an option, so I guess that's one of the changes in MC11? Also, I am not seeing (or maybe not understanding) where you actually made the speed change to 1/10th of original speed?

 

Don

 

EMC 10 doesn't even do HD video and it is several versions behind. I think that the way you change the speed may be the same. Adda video to the timeline in Video Wave. Right clcikon it and select trim. Adjst the spped as shown.

[bimicher]

EMC 10 doesn't even do HD video and it is several versions behind. I think that the way you change the speed may be the same. Adda video to the timeline in Video Wave. Right clcikon it and select trim. Adjst the spped as shown.

 

Hey Steve, where did you get that image?

[sknis]

Hey Steve, where did you get that image?

 

Nice Roxio Vasco da Gama imageof your neck of the woods!

 

Impossible to get away from commercials anywhere !

 

OOPs drift!

[Woodkayaker]

When you say "Media Creator 10" what program are you talking about? Easy Media Creator 10 (which is now 4 versions old) or the 2 version old Roxio Creator 2010? Those are completely different programs and it is best to use the correct names to avoid a lot of confusion.

 

There is also no such program as MC11, the correct name is Roxio Creator 2011, shortened to C2011 here in the forums.

 

Sorry about that. I plead ignorance. I have Easy Media Creator Suite 10. I have been able to use HD video from my Pentax W60 and my W90, and it does output the video to You Tube as HD. I right-clicked, and chose "trim" as suggested, and found that I was able to change the speed - thank you for the tip!

 

You guys have been wonderful help - I really, sincerely, appreciate the fact that you'll take a semi-computer-literate person like myself, and help me along. I will upgrade my Creator program - what is the newest version (what do you recommend)?

 

Don

 

BTW - here's a couple of my old videos on You Tube, shot with my old Pentax W60:

Eagle Rays & Sawfish - Part 2 - unedited:

Kayaking With Gators on the Myakka River:

[sknis]

Sorry, I "mis-remembered" about HD video in EMC 10. In fact, it does output in HD,

 

Video output: AVI, DV-AVI, HD-V, MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4, MPEG2-HD, DivX, DivX HD, WMV, WMV HD, H.264, MP4, 3GP