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What Output Format For Videos For Samsung Series 8 Tv?


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I've tried a half dozen combinations of output formats, but I haven't found anything that works on my Samsung Series 8 TV. Does anyone know what works?

 

I captured video from my Canon HV20 camera. The captured video is 1440x1080. I think that specifically isn't supported by Samsung. But then I converted to different formats like H.264 that is 1920x1080, but nothing seems to work.

 

It is either rejected as a bad format or, in the case of the 1440x1080, it displays too narrow and has a column of flicker blue horizontal lines about 1/10 the width of the video and starts about 3/4 of the way across the video.

 

This captured video plays fine on the computer.

 

Anyone that can give me a clue?

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I've tried a half dozen combinations of output formats, but I haven't found anything that works on my Samsung Series 8 TV. Does anyone know what works?

 

I captured video from my Canon HV20 camera. The captured video is 1440x1080. I think that specifically isn't supported by Samsung. But then I converted to different formats like H.264 that is 1920x1080, but nothing seems to work.

 

It is either rejected as a bad format or, in the case of the 1440x1080, it displays too narrow and has a column of flicker blue horizontal lines about 1/10 the width of the video and starts about 3/4 of the way across the video.

 

This captured video plays fine on the computer.

 

Anyone that can give me a clue?

 

Does the Series 8 TV have a built in DVD player, are you using a DVD player or are you streaming the video or using Media Play? Page 38 of your owners manual says what is acceptable.

 

Have you talked to Samsung about the issue, I find them very knowledgeable and helpful.

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Does the Series 8 TV have a built in DVD player, are you using a DVD player or are you streaming the video or using Media Play? Page 38 of your owners manual says what is acceptable.

 

Have you talked to Samsung about the issue, I find them very knowledgeable and helpful.

 

No, no DVD player. I haven't seen any 52" TVs with DVD players.

 

I have tried both DLNA via a media server (NetGear Stora) and also from the Wise-Link USB connection with a flash drive. The work or fail the same.

 

Yes I contacted Samsung. They weren't helpful and also pointed me to the manual (that I had already read)

 

Here is what one pdf manual says:

 

Compatible files: DLNA-supported file types and extensions are listed below.

Music – MP3 (.mp3)

Photos – JPEG (.jpg, .jpeg)

Video – MPEG1 (.mpg, .mpeg) MPEG2 (.mpg, .mpeg, .trp, .ts, .tp) DIVX (.mpg, .mpeg, .avi) MPEG4 AVC (.mpg, .mpeg)

 

Here is what another one says:

 

Supported Formats

1. Image : JPEG (jpg, jpeg)

2. Audio : MP3 (mp3)

3. Video : MPEG1(mpg, mpeg), MPEG2 PS/TS(mpg, mpeg, trp, ts, tp), divx(mpg, mpeg, avi), MPEG4 / H.264 (mpg, mpeg)

 

Neither of those was on "page 38".

 

 

So I tried converting my captured HDV to H.264, but it wouldn't play.

 

Which is why I am asking here what specifically works. There must be some combination of settings that work, but I haven't found them yet. Or, at least, I'm hoping something works because I was planning on watching the videos from the media server.

 

I can play tape directly from camera to HDMI and that works fine. It is the captured and converted stuff that doesn't work.

 

Anyone know any combinations in Create 2011 that actually work? It is hard for me to believe that I am the only one with and HDV camera that wants to watch it on their TV with a media server.

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Just a question. I don't know anyone with a media server. Does the media server send the video file to the TV and the TV does the decoding?

 

Any PC could be a media server. In fact, I THINK that the Roxio Creator has a media server piece somewhere. And the Samsung TV came with software to run on the PC to make it a media server.

 

The NetGear Stora device is a small box with an OS and places for a couple of drives that can be mirrored or JBOD configured. The OS runs media server software. It just makes itself known to the network as a DLNA serving device and then streams the files to the requestor (in this case the TV) when requested. The drives can also just be used as network drives.

 

I sure wish I knew how to get my Canon HV20 videos encoded so the TV would properly show them.

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Any PC could be a media server. In fact, I THINK that the Roxio Creator has a media server piece somewhere. And the Samsung TV came with software to run on the PC to make it a media server.

 

The NetGear Stora device is a small box with an OS and places for a couple of drives that can be mirrored or JBOD configured. The OS runs media server software. It just makes itself known to the network as a DLNA serving device and then streams the files to the requestor (in this case the TV) when requested. The drives can also just be used as network drives.

 

I sure wish I knew how to get my Canon HV20 videos encoded so the TV would properly show them.

 

I was asking if you were using a stand alone DVD player; not a built in one.

 

I have a Canon HV 30 and have no problems with it. The native recording format is mpg2. What is the native format of the HV20? I know that one of our frequest posters has one .

 

If Samsung was no help, did you go to NetGear to get their help?

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I was asking if you were using a stand alone DVD player; not a built in one.

 

I have a Canon HV 30 and have no problems with it. The native recording format is mpg2. What is the native format of the HV20? I know that one of our frequest posters has one .

 

If Samsung was no help, did you go to NetGear to get their help?

 

I'm not sure what the HV 20 records in internally. I believe it is HDV 1440x1080. When I try to capture with Adobe Premiere, I captured it as 1440x1080. Though I'm not sure what difference it makes as to what its internal recording mechanism is. I capture it via Firewire and that software will determine the format recorded to disk. Then, since my captured format doesn't work, I need to know what format is required so that I can convert what I have captured.

 

I guess I figured there was a Roxio piece that I could use to convert to what I need.

 

Yes, I've contacted NetGear. That device supposedly just streams it out to the TV according to DLNA standards. But the files don't work even when I plug in a USB with the file on it.

 

So the problem is knowing exactly what the target file format should be, what codec, what audio, etc. and how to do that with Roxio (or other tools).

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I tried the Roxio capture. I only had one choice of device and format. The "native" format was mpeg2. The output file was 1440x1080 and doesn't work on the TV from the USB (which is supposed to be the most generous in accepting formats)

 

I thought maybe the Roxio Recode would let me translate the file to something else, but that seems to only want to work from a cd/dvd.

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Okay, I got it. I captured with Roxio, then used Roxio Copy & Convert to convert it. One of the output choices there was HD 1920x1080. And that worked on the TV both from USB and from the media server.

 

The trick is to get the "compressed" 1440 expanded out to the 1920 with a codec that the TV recognizes (whatever that is).

 

I thought I tried such a combination before and it didn't work. But that may have been captured with Adobe Premiere and somehow created it in a fashion that the TV didn't like when it was converted to 1920. Or it may have been that I used a VAIO converter that it didn't like.

 

In any case, I have at least one path forward.

 

Thanks.

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I have a Canon HV20. 1440x1080i MPEG 2 is it's native format. When you capture via firewire, any software you use should be capturing from the HV20 to the same format. Very interesting that the Samsung TV doesn't support that.

 

What output settings did you use in VC&C? That way we can help others with similar TVs.

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I have a Canon HV20. 1440x1080i MPEG 2 is it's native format. When you capture via firewire, any software you use should be capturing from the HV20 to the same format. Very interesting that the Samsung TV doesn't support that.

 

What output settings did you use in VC&C? That way we can help others with similar TVs.

 

I don't remember exactly, but as I said, the "trick" was to get it to 1920. The 1440 is basically compressed horizontal resolution. When the camera plays it out to hdmi, THE CAMERA expands the horizontal compression to get the 1920 output.

 

So I THINK anything that is 1920 output will cause the "expansion" and then the TV will be happy. Basically the TV software isn't happy with a file that has horizontal compression.

 

I'll give it another try and give the specific settings.

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Here is what I did:

 

1. I captured video with either Adobe Premiere Pro or Roxio Creator 2011. (1440x1080 anamorphic)

2. Launched Video Copy and Convert.

3. Click on Movies.

4. Select the captured video.

5. Scroll the output icons to the Video choice and click it.

6. Click on Custom button.

  Choose:

     Compression:   mpeg2
     Resolution:    HD 1080(1920x1080)     <--- that is the key
     Frame Rate:    NTSC(29.97fps)
     Data Rate:     8000 kps
     Audio Format:  Dolby AC3
     Sampling Rate: 48khz
     Sampling Size: 16 bits
     Channels:      Stereo

7. Click the green arrow button

 

The output file worked on the TV.

 

I was surprised that the H.264 compression wasn't liked by the TV. Don't know if there is a way to get that to work.

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FWIW, I could have sworn I tried such combination before it finally worked. Last night, I happened to copy another video to my Stora and when I tried to play it from the TV, it got the "unsupported format" message again. And the file was the SAME video that worked before. A few seconds later, I tried playing it again. Same file. Now the thing played. There might be some time lag on the Stora where the whole file isn't there yet or something. Maybe some sort of caching issue or something. Kind of odd.

 

Oh, it just occurred to me, the Stora takes a couple of seconds to "spin up". Maybe the TV is trying to read the file before the drive is ready causing an error.

 

Anyway, eventually, it DOES work.

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I just wanted to that you for piquing my interest. I bought a Samsung internet capable TV (Not Series 8) several months ago and had never played with it except connect wirelessly to the internet and to get to the Samsung Apps.

 

I started playing with it today and was able to set it up with Windows Media Player to look at my images, play my music and play supported videos over my wireless home network.

 

I'm not sure how much I will use it but at least I know I got what I paid for ! If I want to use the library in WMP, I have to do some rearranging of my files.

 

BTW, what is the full designation of the Series 8 that you have. When I looked at the Series 8 manual, page 39 listed the video codecs as shown below.

 

Pay attentions to the format, resolution, frame rate and bit rate of the video. I'd like to see if the different Samsung TVs have different supported formats.

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