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[pfeiffep]

I have received excellent feed back from this forum (Jim Hardin, sknis, and myguggi) about using C2011 concerning file size, video and audio quality, and thanks to them I'm over my first couple of hurdles. Now I'm moving on the the next phase of the project which is to output to Blu-ray.

 

I have created one test disc containing 3 mp4 files with C2011, this disc plays both in my home theatre and in my pc. For the real project I have just shy of 4 hours of "mp4 files of varying length (shortest 3 min to longest 53 min)

 

I am having difficulty with creating the desired navigation on the output. What I'd like to accomplish in the navigation is to present options:

1)play the entire seven sections sequentially or

2)choose just one selection to play and after completion return to a selector to either choose another or the entire selection. Maybe this could be changed to choose and one of the 7 selections and play through to end from selection point.

 

Bottom line is I want to present 7 choices plus play all 7

 

I'm pretty certain what I've outlined is available in C2011, but I'm hitting a brick wall .......... probably just my thinking and I could use some guidance.

 

Windows 7 home premium 64 bit

Roxio creator 2011 pro

HP Pavilion hpe (intel core i7 960 3.2 ghz)

12 gb memory

160 ssd primary

1 tb hdd secondary

1 tb esata

 

Thanks in advance

Pete

[Jim_Hardin]

pfeiffep, I am so very sorry for not recognizing this earlier…

 

The unlinked button will not work in any AVHCD or Blu-ray Project…

 

I had reported this back in 2009 (HERE) and kind of forgotten about it

 

You need to find a different way of getting it done...

[pfeiffep]

Some other ways to emulate it, building on what Walt suggested is to use a quick movie or still to lead in with…

 

11 frames, roughly 1/3rd of a second, in the minimum length in Roxio. So a very short stub which is merely there to act as a placeholder for the link to all is one way.

 

A little more creative and longer, add some text effects and music to create a lead in - the saga began when…

 

You can’t fade like a pro, because that is a transition between two objects and you can only create ONE to use like this

 

I will make sure this gets mentioned when the beta testing begins for the next generation

 

If I understand this correctly I would create an extremely short segment and create action to play all movies .... correct?

 

Ending the short and having the full length in a blank black (or other identical color) frame would also simulate "fade like a pro"

 

I reported this as an issue this morning via web .... I didn't have a warm fuzzy about the response however.

 

Thanks again for your continued interest and support

 

Pete

[Jim_Hardin]

Some other ways to emulate it, building on what Walt suggested is to use a quick movie or still to lead in with…

 

11 frames, roughly 1/3rd of a second, in the minimum length in Roxio. So a very short stub which is merely there to act as a placeholder for the link to all is one way.

 

A little more creative and longer, add some text effects and music to create a lead in - the saga began when…

 

You can’t fade like a pro, because that is a transition between two objects and you can only create ONE to use like this

 

I will make sure this gets mentioned when the beta testing begins for the next generation

[pfeiffep]

I suppose you could "simulate" a "Play All" button by creating a disc in the following way:

 

add the seven movies as titles in the desired sequence. Each movie becomes a Title on the main menu page. You then setup the "After Playing" menu link so that it plays the next movie.

By selecting movie 1, you would then "Play All" movies in sequence.

 

Thanks Walt,

 

I'll keep this in mind for the next project, but I'm not clear on how this differs from what I've accomplished with chapters, choosing the first chapter will play through to the end.

 

My intention was to have a menu of all 7, choosing any one of the seven would play just that selection and return to the menu, and to have a play all 7 without returning to the menu. I was able to add all the movies separately so each was a title on the main menu page but play all unlinked doesn't work on blu-ray or avchd.

 

I appreciate the advice given by all, it helped me see the trees from deep in the Roxio forest

Pete

[bimicher]

HUZZAH Blu-ray disc created with 7 mp4 files.

All 7 inserted as one movie, then edit chapters choosing start at every panel

Navigation works both on PC and LG bd550.

 

I really liked the idea about creating an unlinked button (which worked fine creating DVDs) but fails with Blu-ray

 

Thanks for the help and suggestions!

 

Pete

 

I suppose you could "simulate" a "Play All" button by creating a disc in the following way:

 

add the seven movies as titles in the desired sequence. Each movie becomes a Title on the main menu page. You then setup the "After Playing" menu link so that it plays the next movie.

By selecting movie 1, you would then "Play All" movies in sequence.

[pfeiffep]

HUZZAH Blu-ray disc created with 7 mp4 files.

All 7 inserted as one movie, then edit chapters choosing start at every panel

Navigation works both on PC and LG bd550.

 

I really liked the idea about creating an unlinked button (which worked fine creating DVDs) but fails with Blu-ray

 

Thanks for the help and suggestions!

 

Pete

[Jim_Hardin]

Beats me...

[pfeiffep]

pfeiffep, I am so very sorry for not recognizing this earlier…

 

The unlinked button will not work in any AVHCD or Blu-ray Project…

 

I had reported this back in 2009 (HERE) and kind of forgotten about it

 

You need to find a different way of getting it done...

 

After reading your referenced post I have one question... Since this issue was noted and documented in C2010 what is the protocol for reporting such issues to Roxio?

and a follow up .... Was it reported and subsequently ignored?

[pfeiffep]

How long in time is your whole project?

 

I can't tell exactly since the menus and chapters do add, the mp4 files add to 2.93 hours (2:56:00)

 

On this iteration (currently buring to iso) using chapters on Blu-ray the stats are:

Used: 23474.1 MB

Free: 745.9 MB

Time Remaining: 00:06:27

So I suspect the total length is 03:53:33 (assuming 4 hr total for sl blu-ray)

 

When I've tested earlier with the desired files I seem to remember there's 18 minutes or there abouts remaining for the blu-ray production

 

Thanks for your continued support

 

Pete

[bimicher]

Thanks Jim,

 

I followed the sage advice from myguggi and created 7 mp4 files with one pic each. I believe if I add all 7 mp4 files as one movie, then create chapters I will at least be able to provide a selector for each file, it will play from selection to end of all chapters ..... correct?

 

That rock pile seems to be never ending

 

Thanks for your continued support ......... I'll be certain to report back when I find a solution that works for me.

 

Pete

 

How long in time is your whole project?

[pfeiffep]

Thanks Jim,

 

I followed the sage advice from myguggi and created 7 mp4 files with one pic each. I believe if I add all 7 mp4 files as one movie, then create chapters I will at least be able to provide a selector for each file, it will play from selection to end of all chapters ..... correct?

 

That rock pile seems to be never ending

 

Thanks for your continued support ......... I'll be certain to report back when I find a solution that works for me.

 

Pete

[pfeiffep]

Hopefully I'll gain some more wisdom.

 

Order of steps followed ( I have seen this called work flow, albeit not on Roxio forums)

1. 
   
    
   
   
2. Created 7 mp4 files consisting of 1 pic each.
   
   
3. Opened MyDVD, selected a menu style
   
   
4. Added an unlinked button so I would have "play all" on the first screen
   
   
5. Added 7 mp4 files and answered yes to add another menu
   
   
6. Preview works as expected
   
   
7. Burn iso failed "button command is not supported"
   
   

 

I renamed generic movie 1 ... 7 to the actual names I would be using in the real production......is there a limit in the menu system for length, or special characters such as & or #

 

So I discovered that Special Characters and length are NOT problematic...........

 

I added the unlinked button and received the same message Burn iso failed "button command is not supported"

 

I attempted to add a sub menu with the button .... same results

 

I attempted to add a sub menu and change action to all movies in project with same ressults.

 

I'm probably missing something VERY obvious, but I think I'm too far into the forest to actually see trees.

 

Adding only 2 mp4 files to a blu-ray burn then an unlinked button also fails

 

Adding all 7 test mp4 files with an unlinked "play all button" to a DVD burn works ......... apparently the issue is with Blu-ray and menus

 

Any advice or corrections will be greatly appreciated

 

TIA

Pete

[pfeiffep]

Instead of waiting 3 hours and then find out it failed, create a simple, short project (7 photos instead of movies, each photo representing a movie in the final project). Burn to iso and test. This will test your menu setup.

 

I suppose that's part of my steep learning curve..........if the current burn fails I will follow your sage advice.

 

Wisdom is the ability to learn from other's mistakes

 

Thanks!

[pfeiffep]

Wellllllllllll I never considered myself TYPICAL, but I have to admit the shoe is fitting so I'm definitely wearing it!

 

C2011 is pretty awesome, but the documentation and error checking is kinda like a skunk ... pretty stinky

 

Thanks for your continued support and guidance

 

Pete

[Jim_Hardin]

Typical user on the Roxio Learning Curve

 

[bimicher]

Ignoring it was problematic during burn to iso which failed with the message "Button Command is not supported. Error while writing format."

 

I'm trying again ..... this time I have all 7 files on the first menu and added the un-linked button to the second menu ......... we'll see in about 3 hours.

 

The learning curve is definitely steep for me

 

Thanks

Pete

 

Instead of waiting 3 hours and then find out it failed, create a simple, short project (7 photos instead of movies, each photo representing a movie in the final project). Burn to iso and test. This will test your menu setup.

[pfeiffep]

Ignoring it was problematic during burn to iso which failed with the message "Button Command is not supported. Error while writing format."

 

I'm trying again ..... this time I have all 7 files on the first menu and added the un-linked button to the second menu ......... we'll see in about 3 hours.

 

The learning curve is definitely steep for me

 

Thanks

Pete

[Jim_Hardin]

 

The real trick that I discovered was to answer no to the question "your menu is full, would you like to add another?" I assumed adding another menu was absolutely required, but found out otherwise.

 

For 7 or so items, OK but ignoring it and continuing to add and add will result in menus that simply do not work...

[bimicher]

EXCELLENT advice.............

 

I was able to add all 7 files and then an un-linked button which I named play all.

 

My preview of the project resulted in every movie playing then returning to main menu, play all started at the first file.

 

The real trick that I discovered was to answer no to the question "your menu is full, would you like to add another?" I assumed adding another menu was absolutely required, but found out otherwise.

 

I decided to burn an iso image first, I will then create the disc, I'm hoping that's a straight forward option in MyDVD.

 

Thanks again.

Pete

 

Different menu styles have different number of titles on the menu pages.

Having too many menu items on one page can lead to problems if the menus overlap. I try not to have more then 5 or 6 selections on a menu page.

Burning to to an iso file first is recommended by many of us. If you have the free video player VLC (google it) and put it on your desktop, you can simply drag the iso file and drop it on the VLC desktop icon and it should play. This is a quick and easy way to test to project. If everything looks good you then burn the iso to DVD using the Burn Image task from C2011

[pfeiffep]

EXCELLENT advice.............

 

I was able to add all 7 files and then an un-linked button which I named play all.

 

My preview of the project resulted in every movie playing then returning to main menu, play all started at the first file.

 

The real trick that I discovered was to answer no to the question "your menu is full, would you like to add another?" I assumed adding another menu was absolutely required, but found out otherwise.

 

I decided to burn an iso image first, I will then create the disc, I'm hoping that's a straight forward option in MyDVD.

 

Thanks again.

Pete

[sknis]

I have received excellent feed back from this forum (Jim Hardin, sknis, and myguggi) about using C2011 concerning file size, video and audio quality, and thanks to them I'm over my first couple of hurdles. Now I'm moving on the the next phase of the project which is to output to Blu-ray.

 

I have created one test disc containing 3 mp4 files with C2011, this disc plays both in my home theatre and in my pc. For the real project I have just shy of 4 hours of "mp4 files of varying length (shortest 3 min to longest 53 min)

 

I am having difficulty with creating the desired navigation on the output. What I'd like to accomplish in the navigation is to present options:

1)play the entire seven sections sequentially or

2)choose just one selection to play and after completion return to a selector to either choose another or the entire selection. Maybe this could be changed to choose and one of the 7 selections and play through to end from selection point.

 

Bottom line is I want to present 7 choices plus play all 7

 

I'm pretty certain what I've outlined is available in C2011, but I'm hitting a brick wall .......... probably just my thinking and I could use some guidance.

 

Windows 7 home premium 64 bit

Roxio creator 2011 pro

HP Pavilion hpe (intel core i7 960 3.2 ghz)

12 gb memory

160 ssd primary

1 tb hdd secondary

1 tb esata

 

Thanks in advance

Pete

 

Since you know how to add each individually, lets talk about adding " A play all button" or a unlinked button. Select to add a movie and then when the window opens, select all the videos you want to add in the order you want them added. Use Windows CTRL Enter or Shift Enter depending on where the files are . They should all be in one Windows folder for easiest selection. You will get a window that asks if you want them added separately or as one movie. Since you have space on the blu-ray disc. they should all fit.

 

or try this: