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I'm a new Roxio Creator user so may be some operator error here but here is the issues.

 

a. When using Edit Video Advance function, I add video using the "Add Photo/Video" feature. Appears when I try to add too many videos at once it effects the native sound track of the videos added. In my current project I added a few videos at a time and all was fine. Added some 20 or so short video clips adding up to some 10 mintues total when run end to end. Then I imported several (est. 7 videos with a total running length of say 8 minutes) and when I tried to run all 27 videos end to end the first 20 were fine but the native video on the last seven videos I added was "choppy". I then cut/deleted the last 7 videos added and imported them one by one but the native audio was still "choppy". I even tried just added only one and it was "choppy" too. Appears once I add "too many" I can not reverse the effects of "choppiness" to the native video and I have to start from scratch on the whole production.

 

Q. Is there a limit on how many videos can be added, either in terms of the number of videos that may be added safely or the total number of minutes of video that can be added safely?

 

Q. If I do add to many, is there any way I can reverse the negative "choppy" effects once they occure (when cut or delete won't do it?

 

b. How can I rename a project?

 

Appreicate any and all help.

 

Frank65

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I'm a new Roxio Creator user so may be some operator error here but here is the issues.

 

a. When using Edit Video Advance function, I add video using the "Add Photo/Video" feature. Appears when I try to add too many videos at once it effects the native sound track of the videos added. In my current project I added a few videos at a time and all was fine. Added some 20 or so short video clips adding up to some 10 mintues total when run end to end. Then I imported several (est. 7 videos with a total running length of say 8 minutes) and when I tried to run all 27 videos end to end the first 20 were fine but the native video on the last seven videos I added was "choppy". I then cut/deleted the last 7 videos added and imported them one by one but the native audio was still "choppy". I even tried just added only one and it was "choppy" too. Appears once I add "too many" I can not reverse the effects of "choppiness" to the native video and I have to start from scratch on the whole production.

 

Q. Is there a limit on how many videos can be added, either in terms of the number of videos that may be added safely or the total number of minutes of video that can be added safely?

 

Q. If I do add to many, is there any way I can reverse the negative "choppy" effects once they occure (when cut or delete won't do it?

 

b. How can I rename a project?

 

Appreicate any and all help.

 

Frank65

 

In Edit Video Adanced, (Video Wave), go to the top menu, select tools, options and clear the proxy files. Does that fix the problem?

 

There is only one practical limit - the speed of your computer. Some people have experienced issues if the slide is moved too quickly beyond the end of a series of video files.

 

When you go to burn, keep in mind that you can put only about 60 minutes of video on a standard single layer DVD at best quality.

 

There should be no change in the original video when you add them; in fact even when you edit them you do not change the original video file. Is there a possibility that the videos were corrupted before hand or are they on a separate drive from the others.

 

Use Windows to change the name of your project you will see the project and the associated dat file with the same name. Change both.

 

Please post your computer specs and the condition of your hard drive - free space and the date of last defrag.

 

I think I covered everything.

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Sknis,

Thanks for the feedback. Tried recommendations and have answers below. Problem remains.

 

Action: In Edit Video Adanced, (Video Wave), go to the top menu, select tools, options and clear the proxy files. Does that fix the problem?

 

Results: No effect although I'm not certain that I've actually cleared the proxy files. I followed steps above and got to final step of clear proxy. I press "clear" tile and a confirmation block appears asking if I'm certain I want to clear the proxy cache. I answer yes, and the confirmation block goes away but data in the proxy block remains unchanged: C:/User/Owners/Appdata/Roxi/EMC13/VideoUI/Proxy I went ahead and re-ran the video project consisting of several video clips and the problem remained.

 

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Note: There is only one practical limit - the speed of your computer. Some people have experienced issues if the slide is moved too quickly beyond the end of a series of video files.

 

Response: Not sure what is meant by moving the slide too quickly ..... All I've done is marked the videos to be moved using the Add Pictures/Video function and hit the Open tile.

 

Note: When you go to burn, keep in mind that you can put only about 60 minutes of video on a standard single layer DVD at best quality.

 

Response: Got it.

 

Note: There should be no change in the original video when you add them; in fact even when you edit them you do not change the original video file. Is there a possibility that the videos were corrupted before hand or are they on a separate drive from the others.

 

Response: The "chop" on he native audio is only present when running the entire video production (running all video clips (and transitions if used) as one movie). The "Chop" does NOT appear when viewing a single video clip lets say by double clicking a video in the Storyboard mode. All the videos in question come from My Pictures and you are correct, the originals have not been effected. Would appear that the there is an issue in the preview function of the S/W that is only apparent when viewing the entire project as a single movie.

 

Note: Use Windows to change the name of your project you will see the project and the associated dat file with the same name. Change both.

 

Response: Got it.

 

Note: Please post your computer specs and the condition of your hard drive - free space and the date of last defrag.

 

Response: Defrag was performed as part of trouble shooting. Only 1 percent was fragmented and fixed. No effect on problem. Of the 453 GH, I've used 208 GHs. Other system info is I have a Core2 Duo/Intel processor with 4 GH of RAM. All functioning within specs.

 

Appreciate any other things I should try as its difficult to imagine moving forward on any projects without resolving this.

 

Regards,

Frank65

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Sknis,

Thanks for the feedback. Tried recommendations and have answers below. Problem remains.

 

Action: In Edit Video Adanced, (Video Wave), go to the top menu, select tools, options and clear the proxy files. Does that fix the problem?

 

Results: No effect although I'm not certain that I've actually cleared the proxy files. I followed steps above and got to final step of clear proxy. I press "clear" tile and a confirmation block appears asking if I'm certain I want to clear the proxy cache. I answer yes, and the confirmation block goes away but data in the proxy block remains unchanged: C:/User/Owners/Appdata/Roxi/EMC13/VideoUI/Proxy I went ahead and re-ran the video project consisting of several video clips and the problem remained.

 

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Note: There is only one practical limit - the speed of your computer. Some people have experienced issues if the slide is moved too quickly beyond the end of a series of video files.

 

Response: Not sure what is meant by moving the slide too quickly ..... All I've done is marked the videos to be moved using the Add Pictures/Video function and hit the Open tile.

 

Note: When you go to burn, keep in mind that you can put only about 60 minutes of video on a standard single layer DVD at best quality.

 

Response: Got it.

 

Note: There should be no change in the original video when you add them; in fact even when you edit them you do not change the original video file. Is there a possibility that the videos were corrupted before hand or are they on a separate drive from the others.

 

Response: The "chop" on he native audio is only present when running the entire video production (running all video clips (and transitions if used) as one movie). The "Chop" does NOT appear when viewing a single video clip lets say by double clicking a video in the Storyboard mode. All the videos in question come from My Pictures and you are correct, the originals have not been effected. Would appear that the there is an issue in the preview function of the S/W that is only apparent when viewing the entire project as a single movie.

 

Note: Use Windows to change the name of your project you will see the project and the associated dat file with the same name. Change both.

 

Response: Got it.

 

Note: Please post your computer specs and the condition of your hard drive - free space and the date of last defrag.

 

Response: Defrag was performed as part of trouble shooting. Only 1 percent was fragmented and fixed. No effect on problem. Of the 453 GH, I've used 208 GHs. Other system info is I have a Core2 Duo/Intel processor with 4 GH of RAM. All functioning within specs.

 

Appreciate any other things I should try as its difficult to imagine moving forward on any projects without resolving this.

 

Regards,

Frank65

 

Output the project to a video file using "Output AS' and select moeg2, DVD best quality. Then play the mpg file and see if the "choppiness" is still there..

 

The preview is not really a good indication of what the final video will be like.

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Tried but no good. Final video has the same "chop" in native text. Ran another test adding just one 40 second clip to a New Production. The clip used runs well from My Pictures and was a clip that I'd earlier used and had a "chop problem" with. Ran the single clip in the preview mode from the Storybook function. Also had the the different tracks showing as well. When played the chop was present for the first 30 seconds of the 40 second video. But the last 10 seconds there was zero audio while the remaining 10 seconds had good video.

 

I failed to mention this before but in the effected clips, it seems the last few seconds of audio of each clip is blank which would seem to indicate that while the video track is fine, the audio track is being compress and creating a "chopped" effect. Just a guess.

 

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Tried but no good. Final video has the same "chop" in native text. Ran another test adding just one 40 second clip to a New Production. The clip used runs well from My Pictures and was a clip that I'd earlier used and had a "chop problem" with. Ran the single clip in the preview mode from the Storybook function. Also had the the different tracks showing as well. When played the chop was present for the first 30 seconds of the 40 second video. But the last 10 seconds there was zero audio while the remaining 10 seconds had good video.

 

I failed to mention this before but in the effected clips, it seems the last few seconds of audio of each clip is blank which would seem to indicate that while the video track is fine, the audio track is being compress and creating a "chopped" effect. Just a guess.

 

Frank65

 

Almost seems like that there is a problem with some of the clips you are using. Where did you get them?

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DG,

Took videos from a Canon 35MM SLR digital camera with video function.

 

I would think it wouldn't have anything to do with the videos or its source since all play well when I access them in My Pictures and play fine. Also when I use the preview editor function of Roxio they play well. Only issue is when I play the clips end to end as a whole movie.

 

I'm still wondering if its not the proxy files. That was the first recommendation given and as you can see by my response I'm not sure that I ever really completed that task. Not sure where or how to go in my files to check. Any recommendations would be welcomed.

 

Another thing that may be totally unrelated but I mention, is that when I bring up a new production from scratch, down in the storyboard section there are many (estimate 25) "ghost" spots for videos or pictures to go and each with a "ghost" spot for any transitions may go. I don't recall seeing this the first time I used the S/W. That was about the number of video clips I had in my first production when I noticed the "chopping" problem. It makes me wonder if the original file I created was corrupted and when I delete, cut the video clip or try to dump the entire new production, if something isn't staying around that re-creates the problem when I add new videos into those spots.

 

Not sure if all that made sense but thought I'd give it a try.

 

Frank65

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DG,

Took videos from a Canon 35MM SLR digital camera with video function.

 

I would think it wouldn't have anything to do with the videos or its source since all play well when I access them in My Pictures and play fine. Also when I use the preview editor function of Roxio they play well. Only issue is when I play the clips end to end as a whole movie.

 

I'm still wondering if its not the proxy files. That was the first recommendation given and as you can see by my response I'm not sure that I ever really completed that task. Not sure where or how to go in my files to check. Any recommendations would be welcomed.

 

Another thing that may be totally unrelated but I mention, is that when I bring up a new production from scratch, down in the storyboard section there are many (estimate 25) "ghost" spots for videos or pictures to go and each with a "ghost" spot for any transitions may go. I don't recall seeing this the first time I used the S/W. That was about the number of video clips I had in my first production when I noticed the "chopping" problem. It makes me wonder if the original file I created was corrupted and when I delete, cut the video clip or try to dump the entire new production, if something isn't staying around that re-creates the problem when I add new videos into those spots.

 

Not sure if all that made sense but thought I'd give it a try.

 

Frank65

 

The proxy files are found in "C:\Users\xxxxxx\AppData\Roaming\Roxio\EMC13\VideoUI\Proxy" (for VIsta) where "xxxxxx" is your user name. If there are any files in that folder you can delete them all

 

What do you mean by "ghost spots"? You will have to post a screenshot to show what you see. Do you mean that you still have some image in each of the storyline panels? Eaxh of the video panels as well as the transition boxes should be blank.

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I bet those video files are mov files. rolleyes.gif Some digital cameras use formats that do not conform to the standards used by Roxio. There are two solutions.

 

I'm going to recommend the one that is simpler and will do batch conversion. You must convert those mov (or other) files to mpg2 files before putting them into Video Wave. I like the free "Any Video Converter" (cnet.com). to do the conversions but other software works also.

 

You used the word chop so that threw us off. Usually people just say that the audio is very fast and finishes before the video.

 

This seems to be true only for video taken by digital cameras and does not seem to be true for videos taken by camcorders.

 

The other way of doing it is to use Video Copy and Convert to convert those files; sometimes that doesn't work for the same reason as above.

 

I'm assuming you are using HD files. The program I suggested does HD but you must click on the resolution to get the drop down to show. Try one and see if it works in video wave.

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DG,

Contacted Roxio Chat Support and they say there is indeed an issue with Canon generated .MOV files working with Roxio 2011 and 2012 versions. I find this a bit shocking in that Canon is certainly not an off brand as it hold a substantial market share of the cameras sold using .MOV. I just am surprised that there is a compatability issue given this is such a popular camera in the world. But I will have to convert and appreicate the recommendation for batch conversion. Chat tech recommended DIVX.COM to convert my files. Not sure if it has a batch feature or not.

 

In either case I appreciate your feedback but dread the conversion step given the number of videos I am going to have to convert prior to editing.

 

Again thanks for all you help.

 

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DG,

Contacted Roxio Chat Support and they say there is indeed an issue with Canon generated .MOV files working with Roxio 2011 and 2012 versions. I find this a bit shocking in that Canon is certainly not an off brand as it hold a substantial market share of the cameras sold using .MOV. I just am surprised that there is a compatability issue given this is such a popular camera in the world. But I will have to convert and appreicate the recommendation for batch conversion. Chat tech recommended DIVX.COM to convert my files. Not sure if it has a batch feature or not.

 

In either case I appreciate your feedback but dread the conversion step given the number of videos I am going to have to convert prior to editing.

 

Again thanks for all you help.

 

Frank65

Not really surprising at all ~ both Canon & Sony have always had trouble conforming to Standards that everyone else use :lol:

 

WHAT options do you have as far as the settings for Movie within the camera???

 

There may be a setting that will resolve this, just as the FXP setting in my Canon Camcorder works 100% of the time vs the MXP setting that often fails :o

 

If your willing, I would love to pursue this to see if we can find a usable solution :glare:

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