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I am using Videowave for my production. My production is in 16:9 format. My video file is created in 16:9 format. When I load my video into Videowave, it displays in 16:9 format. When I output my video, it is displayed 16:9 format, but my video itself is scrunched in 4:3 with black bars filling out the 16:9 format.

 

When I right click the video panel and select properties-->details tab of the video file I load in Videowave, it says it is 704x480, not 720x480. This is my only clue, but I don't know what to do. I am so frustrated with Roxio, anymore, I am seriously looking into another product.

 

Please help!

 

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Jon D007 by thread jacking this thread, you created some confusion on the responses. This was Photonix thread and some people are replying to him and some are replying to you. Please don't threadjack again to minimize confusion.

 

I recently had to read the small print on capturing HD-DVI files from a Canon comcorder via firewire. Regardless of how I set the camcorder, I always got 1440 by 1080 video capture. A friend reminded me that 1440 by 1080 is actually 4 by 3 ratio. In Video Wave, they always came in as 1920 by 1080.:blink:

 

In looking at the manual, the text said that capture via fire wirs would always come in as 1080 (lines high) but never said anything about with 1440 or 1920 (width)

 

I'm not sure you are suffering a similar issue.

 

Photonix, can you simply take the memory card from that camcorder and put it into a reader on our computer? What do you get.

 

As cd said , if you are capturing as PAL, the ration should be 704 by 567. Yours is:

 

I think Photonix has the NTSC camcorder and the manual states a picture size of 704x480

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I am sorry to be out of contact about this, I have been a bit occupied.

 

The way I have been doing it up until now is by inserting my memory card into the card reader. This prompts Motion SD Studio software to start. The software then has an "import function" that saves the videos to a destination of my choice. It saves two files, a xxx.mpg and a xxx.mtv file for each video. Not idea what the xxx.mtv file is.

 

After the videos have been stored, I have been loading them straight into Roxio. That has been the work flow.

 

After this forum dig some digging, I found I can take it one step further in Motion SD Studio and, after I import a video, I can go into another mode and then "output" the file again in 16:9 format, or even perform some other basic editing. This works, but is an extra step I don't wish to go through.

 

So, my question is, when you loaded my file into C2012, you could build a a video with that clip (or multiple clips) without first having to output the file individually?

 

I apologize for the 3 second video, I was in a hurry and honestly thought is was 10-15 seconds. Some time this week, I can provide a few 10-15 second snippits that may be more helpful.

 

I have not tried just dragging and dropping the files to my computer from the memory card, I guess I should.

 

The mtv files seem to be some form of video that can be uploaded to "Chinese mp4" players ... according to Google.

 

In what format are the "raw" video files on your memory card? Upload a clip from the memory card as well as the Motion Studio created mpg.

 

I used your 3 sec clip directly in Videowave and myDVD with no problems that I could see. There was no scrunching

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I am sorry to be out of contact about this, I have been a bit occupied.

 

The way I have been doing it up until now is by inserting my memory card into the card reader. This prompts Motion SD Studio software to start. The software then has an "import function" that saves the videos to a destination of my choice. It saves two files, a xxx.mpg and a xxx.mtv file for each video. Not idea what the xxx.mtv file is.

 

After the videos have been stored, I have been loading them straight into Roxio. That has been the work flow.

 

After this forum dig some digging, I found I can take it one step further in Motion SD Studio and, after I import a video, I can go into another mode and then "output" the file again in 16:9 format, or even perform some other basic editing. This works, but is an extra step I don't wish to go through.

 

So, my question is, when you loaded my file into C2012, you could build a a video with that clip (or multiple clips) without first having to output the file individually?

 

I apologize for the 3 second video, I was in a hurry and honestly thought is was 10-15 seconds. Some time this week, I can provide a few 10-15 second snippits that may be more helpful.

 

I have not tried just dragging and dropping the files to my computer from the memory card, I guess I should.

 

You haven't read all the reply's?

 

Your asking the same questions.

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I am sorry to be out of contact about this, I have been a bit occupied.

 

The way I have been doing it up until now is by inserting my memory card into the card reader. This prompts Motion SD Studio software to start. The software then has an "import function" that saves the videos to a destination of my choice. It saves two files, a xxx.mpg and a xxx.mtv file for each video. Not idea what the xxx.mtv file is.

 

After the videos have been stored, I have been loading them straight into Roxio. That has been the work flow.

 

After this forum dig some digging, I found I can take it one step further in Motion SD Studio and, after I import a video, I can go into another mode and then "output" the file again in 16:9 format, or even perform some other basic editing. This works, but is an extra step I don't wish to go through.

 

So, my question is, when you loaded my file into C2012, you could build a a video with that clip (or multiple clips) without first having to output the file individually?

 

I apologize for the 3 second video, I was in a hurry and honestly thought is was 10-15 seconds. Some time this week, I can provide a few 10-15 second snippits that may be more helpful.

 

I have not tried just dragging and dropping the files to my computer from the memory card, I guess I should.

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According to the Motion Studio PDF, there are 2 settings to output mpeg2 files:

 

 

Also, isn't Power Director 10 newer software than Roxio Creator 10 (a couple years old?)? The file loads OK in C2012 VW, except for those few missing pixels on either side, but the aspect ratio would be off due to the odd 704px width.

 

Power Director 10 is brand new.

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I checked the Motion SD Studio software and read the manual referred to previously. I am able to output a file using the Motion SD Studio software editing software, but I have to output each one individually. If I output it and check it with GSpot, it shows 16:9, 704x480. Btw, I don't use the Motion SD Studio software for editing, that's what I spent $100 a few years back purchasing Roxio.

 

Regarding the camera manual, here are the relevant pages (not sure how to insert the pic): http://dl.dropbox.co...er%20Manual.jpg

 

I don't really want to have to re-create all of my videos one at a time to get widescreen in Roxio. The PowerDirector program worked for me without doing anything special. I know this is not the forum for this, but this forum lead me to it, does anyone have experience with PowerDirector that would be able to state the pros and cons to each program?

 

I can't say enough how much help you guys have been here, and expedient! I want to thank you guys millions and let you know that I was able to get a very special family video made without being scrunched just in time!

 

I am glad that you were able to get your project done in time using whatever worked for you. Was the clip you outloaded direct from the camcorder or was it the "output" from the Motion Studio software?

 

In what format are the video clips created with your camcorder? If in mpeg2 then can't you simply copy them to your hard drive from the SD card using Windows Explorer? There would be no need to use the Motions Studio software.

 

As I posted above I have no problem creating a Widescreen 16x9 video (using your clip) with Videowave in C2012. I believe cdanteek was able to do the same in C2011 and I think C2010 will do it also.

A longer then 3 sec video would have been better to work with though.

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I checked the Motion SD Studio software and read the manual referred to previously. I am able to output a file using the Motion SD Studio software editing software, but I have to output each one individually. If I output it and check it with GSpot, it shows 16:9, 704x480. Btw, I don't use the Motion SD Studio software for editing, that's what I spent $100 a few years back purchasing Roxio.

 

Regarding the camera manual, here are the relevant pages (not sure how to insert the pic): http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25768793/Camcorder%20Manual.jpg

 

I don't really want to have to re-create all of my videos one at a time to get widescreen in Roxio. The PowerDirector program worked for me without doing anything special. I know this is not the forum for this, but this forum lead me to it, does anyone have experience with PowerDirector that would be able to state the pros and cons to each program?

 

I can't say enough how much help you guys have been here, and expedient! I want to thank you guys millions and let you know that I was able to get a very special family video made without being scrunched just in time!

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I believe I bought it at best buy. It is probably 3-4 years old.

 

First let me state that I am using C2012 for this test. Maybe things have changed since C2010, hopefully someone who has C2010 installed can test it

 

I took your clip and added it into Videowave and then output as mpeg2, best quality.

 

In either projects I see no problems, no scrunching

 

For a 4x3VW project this is what I see:

post-103-088516000 1328386471.jpg

 

For a 16x9 VW project i get this:

post-103-046252100 1328386473.jpg

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I am transferring from the SD card using the software that came with the camera, called SD Studio. Interestingly, I just downloaded the trial version of PowerDirector 10, inserted a clip from my video camera and then exported it to mpeg-2. The results were in widescreen format!

 

According to the Motion Studio PDF, there are 2 settings to output mpeg2 files:

 

One is 16:9 (Use with Motion SD Studio) and "may not be displayed correctly on other editing software"

 

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a 16:9 (Use with other software) which they say, should be compatible with other software, but not MotionSD.

 

Did you choose the second 16:9 option?

 

 

Also, isn't Power Director 10 newer software than Roxio Creator 10 2010 (a couple years old?)? The file loads OK in C2012 VW, except for those few missing pixels on either side, but the aspect ratio would be off due to the odd 704px width.

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I am transferring from the SD card using the software that came with the camera, called SD Studio. Interestingly, I just downloaded the trial version of PowerDirector 10, inserted a clip from my video camera and then exported it to mpeg-2. The results were in widescreen format!

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Jon D007 by thread jacking this thread, you created some confusion on the responses. This was Photonix thread and some people are replying to him and some are replying to you. Please don't threadjack again to minimize confusion.

 

I recently had to read the small print on capturing HD-DVI files from a Canon comcorder via firewire. Regardless of how I set the camcorder, I always got 1440 by 1080 video capture. A friend reminded me that 1440 by 1080 is actually 4 by 3 ratio. In Video Wave, they always came in as 1920 by 1080.:blink:

 

In looking at the manual, the text said that capture via fire wirs would always come in as 1080 (lines high) but never said anything about with 1440 or 1920 (width)

 

I'm not sure you are suffering a similar issue.

 

Photonix, can you simply take the memory card from that camcorder and put it into a reader on our computer? What do you get.

 

As cd said , if you are capturing as PAL, the ration should be 704 by 567. Yours is:

post-58-040964500 1328375264.jpg

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Is there anything I can do?

 

I don't have 10 installed, but I just tried the file in VW9 and was able to add it as an overlay and manually stretch it to 16:9. Maybe that can help get the project you are in the middle of finished anyway.

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OK, not sure what happened.

 

Try this:

http://dl.dropbox.co...0203_191704.mpg

 

 

3 frames is just not long enough but does show 4 by 3.

 

There was an issue capturing wide screen with certain Panasonic and JVC camocrders because they didn't set the 16 by 9 flag so Roxio could see it. This was with earlier versions of Creator and Easy Media Creator. The solution is to capture using a third party free capture program. The link to the discussion is here.

 

This issue should not be in Creator 2010 (where you posted). You might want to try a capture with that third party capture to see if it sees the 16 by 9.

 

Note: Ar eyou using PAL or NTSC? The video you posted is 704 by 480. For 4 by 3 it should be 720 by 480. - That is just an aside and has nothing to do with the above.

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