File Too Big For Hq

[joca]

I have just gone to burn/make an ISO file for a +RDL at high quality. OK I know the file of about 2 1/2 hrs of video at over 9+ gig is too big because my dvd tells me so. Blueray is not an option and I would like the best quality to a verbatin +RDL disk so my question is. Do I select a lower quality setting if so which one other than fit too disk or do I just ignore the warning and let roxio sort it out on it's own for me ?

[Jim_Hardin]

It is just simply TOO MUCH to fit on a DVD...

 

If you choose a lower Quality setting, your Video will degrade

 

You would have to drop to SP or tinker wtih the mbps settings in HQ to make it work... 7.50 mbps would do it, but do you really want to give up that much quality

 

You can try a short test (30 seconds or so) at those settings but pick scenes with Detail, Color and Movement to best see the results! One example from my tests was a wooden panel behind 2 people... At SP you could tell it was a wood panel... At HQ you could see the grain!

 

IF IT WERE MINE, there would be Two Discs in that box!!!!!!!!!

 

When you grandkid go to move your work onto the media of their generation, do you really want to to frown and say 'I wish Grandpa hadn't have been so stingy with the quality...'

[joca]

It is just simply TOO MUCH to fit on a DVD...

 

If you choose a lower Quality setting, your Video will degrade

 

You would have to drop to SP or tinker wtih the mbps settings in HQ to make it work... 7.50 mbps would do it, but do you really want to give up that much quality

 

You can try a short test (30 seconds or so) at those settings but pick scenes with Detail, Color and Movement to best see the results! One example from my tests was a wooden panel behind 2 people... At SP you could tell it was a wood panel... At HQ you could see the grain!

 

IF IT WERE MINE, there would be Two Discs in that box!!!!!!!!!

 

When you grandkid go to move your work onto the media of their generation, do you really want to to frown and say 'I wish Grandpa hadn't have been so stingy with the quality...'

 

Thank for your reply Jim. I am not trying to fit it onto a 4.7 disk, I am trying to fit it onto a duel layer disk and it is 13 minutes or 13 MB over max so what I would like to know will roxio sort out the shortfall automatically or will I have to put some other setting in. As I speak I am currently burning to a folder set another option maybe is to burn with image burn but I don't really know that programme and now is not the time to fiddle. This ia a video of a local pantomine and I need try and get it onto a DL before opting to spread it over 2 disks which I will do if all else fails.

Edited March 31, 2012 by joca

[sknis]

Thank for your reply Jim. I am not trying to fit it onto a 4.7 disk, I am trying to fit it onto a duel layer disk and it is 13 minutes or 13 MB over max so what I would like to know will roxio sort out the shortfall automatically or will I have to put some other setting in. As I speak I am currently burning to a folder set another option maybe is to burn with image burn but I don't really know that programme and now is not the time to fiddle. This ia a video of a local pantomine and I need try and get it onto a DL before opting to spread it over 2 disks which I will do if all else fails.

 

If you use Copy and Convert Video to burn the folder set to the DL disc, it should fit.

 

It is designed to copy a DL disc to a SL disc so it should be able to compress that slightly long video to a dl disc.

 

Note I have tried it and my guesses lately have not been very good !

Edited March 31, 2012 by sknis

[joca]

If you use Copy and Convert Video to burn the folder set to the DL disc, it should fit.

 

It is designed to copy a DL disc to a SL disc so it should be able to compress that slightly long video to a dl disc.

 

Note I have tried it and my guesses lately have not been very good !

 

Hi Dave thanks for that I haven't tried what you suggest yet but I have created another topic concerning this 2hr 15 minute file I am obviously because of the size having difficulty getting this to disk so, have decided to split the file (if poss) and make 2 disks can I suggest you look at my query in the other topic in general discussion. Cheers

 

 

 

[Jim_Hardin]

Frankly you are creating your own problem!

 

What Steve suggested will work but only by reducing the Quality!!!

 

1 hr for 4.7 GB or 2 hr for 8.5!

 

Split the project or learn to live in the limits...

 

In a few years, as video quality continues to evolve, you will be happy you didn't scrimp

[joca]

Frankly you are creating your own problem!

 

What Steve suggested will work but only by reducing the Quality!!!

 

1 hr for 4.7 GB or 2 hr for 8.5!

 

Split the project or learn to live in the limits...

 

In a few years, as video quality continues to evolve, you will be happy you didn't scrimp

 

Hi Jim, Trust me I am not trying to scrimp but I am trying to find an answer to my problem which I don't know what it is. Yes I know I have a file that is far too big for a single layer disk it is also too big for a dual layer disk because to burn to a DL it would need to find where to split the layer which it cannot do because of the size. Because originally the vid is HD the ideal would be to burn bluray but I have to share with some folks that don't have a BD player. As two 4.7 disks are cheaper than one DL to scimp doesn't really come into it , it is the finished quality that matters. hence my other posted topic. Cheers

 

 

 

[Jim_Hardin]

You have no need to know where the layer split is

 

All you have to think of is TIME

[joca]

You have no need to know where the layer split is

 

All you have to think of is TIME

 

Jim when I refer to layer split I am talking about layer split on a dual layer disk not the splitting in VW

Edited April 2, 2012 by joca

[sknis]

Re-read Jim's last post whch you quoted. It is automatic and the video may hesitate for a brief time-- fractions of a seconds.. There is not much you can do about it.

 

You are running two threads along the same issue and you can be assured that you or someone else will get confused.

[joca]

Re-read Jim's last post whch you quoted. It is automatic and the video may hesitate for a brief time-- fractions of a seconds.. There is not much you can do about it.

 

You are running two threads along the same issue and you can be assured that you or someone else will get confused.

Dave what item is automatic ??? my DVD says it can't be done and IMGBurn also cannot do it so I am left with one option i.e. make two disks which is another story. If a project cannot be split whilst keeping it's integrety then maybe that is something roxio can look at if it can done now I would like to know

 

 

 

Thanks Dave No I can't be sure that people won't be confused I thought about it very hard but it became two issues 1. the burning of this 2HR 13min file to DL disk then we got into 2. which is splits in VW so I felt it was going to become two topics on the same thread which is not good for people to follow. On top of that I lost 2 post that I put up this morning early one was pointed towards yourself on the VW split topic when there was an issue with the site could have been maintenance. I am still in the same siuation now Jim's idea on splitting it into 2 files didn't work for me I was hoping that there could be away of a copy and paste so that I can move all the files together because the editing has taken me lot's of hours to achieve with adio track/effects/overlays/and text most of which are not on internal tracks.

 

perhaps I ought to forget these two topics and start a fresh one because I am now resigned to the fact that I can't get this onto a DL disk with any acceptable quality

 

and Jim has made a suggestion about splitting that only works intact for one half being the first half

Edited April 2, 2012 by joca

[cdanteek]

perhaps I ought to forget these two topics and start a fresh one

 

You have two threads running now and post in this one before looking at the answer in the other one.

 

They should of stayed in one topic and now you want to start a third!

[joca]

You have two threads running now and post in this one before looking at the answer in the other one.

 

They should of stayed in one topic and now you want to start a third!

 

CD They were one topic until Jim wrote quote "split the project and learn to live with the limits" so I decided to go down that road and as it is a different subject I decided that as the burn to Dual layer was a no go I would start a new thread on the splitting subject now Dave has come up with a work around in that thread that is where I am. As far as dual layer is concerned for this particular project Mydvd could not do it without truncating the file and imgburn just says the file is too big for the media which is correct, it is.

 

 

 

[cdanteek]

CD They were one topic until Jim wrote quote "split the project and learn to live with the limits" so I decided to go down that road and as it is a different subject I decided that as the burn to Dual layer was a no go I would start a new thread on the splitting subject now Dave has come up with a work around in that thread that is where I am. As far as dual layer is concerned for this particular project Mydvd could not do it without truncating the file and imgburn just says the file is too big for the media which is correct, it is.

 

 

There is no Dave in either thread to thank!

 

Splitting a 9.5gb file to two single layer DVD's is still to big?

[joca]

There is no Dave in either thread to thank!

 

Splitting a 9.5gb file to two single layer DVD's is still to big?

 

Apologies to Steve for getting his name wrong.

 

You are right a 9.5gb file on two single layers is too big. So how would you suggest I do it ??? without having to re-edit

 

 

 

[Jim_Hardin]

Apologies to Steve for getting his name wrong.

 

You are right a 9.5gb file on two single layers is too big. So how would you suggest I do it ??? without having to re-edit

Answered in your other Topic