Toast Quit Unexpectedly Went Trying To Load A Saved File!

[TK_Tech]

Toast quits unexpectedly went I load a saved file. Here is the process: I begin a new project, with my AVCHD camera by naming the project and loading a couple of video clip into the project area.

For this project, I need video clips from other memory cards so in order to clear Toast's data base of this present set of video clips, I close Toast, eject the present memory card for a new one and

then start up Toast anew with the new memory card; however, this is where the problem occurs.

After Toast is started, and I try to open the project to continue adding video clips to it, I get this

error stating that "Toast failed unexpectedly". I don't know what to do! I would like to stay in Toast

and just move memory cards in and out of my video camera but Toast does not purge all

the data from the previous memory card. So what you get are Thumbnail pictures from the old

memory card in place of the new Thumbnail pictures of the new memory card. This makes editing a nightmare. Interesting, if I drag any of these video clips over into the project area, the Thumbnail pictures will change to the proper Thumbnail picture of the new video clips. After experimenting with Toast, I found that the only way to purge Toast's data base of references to the previous video clips is to quit Toast, change the memory card in the camera and then start Toast anew. Now all of this

experimenting was done without building a project but with a project I can't load back my project file. Please any suggestions will be much apreciated!

[tsantee]

What I can make of this is that Toast needs to have the source content available when the project is reopened. But you have changed the source and Toast crashes. Instead of saving the project file you'll need to choose Save as Disc Image so the source video is written to the Mac's hard drive. When the disc image is finished you can mount it. There are several ways to do this but what I choose is control-clicking on the .toast image file and choosing Mount It from the contextual menu. When it is mounted you can create a new Toast project and drag in the videos from the mounted disc image. I suppose you could create a disc image for the video on each memory card, mount them all and drag their videos to the main window to create your final master.

 

There may be an easier way to do it, but this is the one I can think of.

[TK_Tech]

Thanks again Tsantee, you are a Godsend! All that you have stated makes a lot of sense; however, one would think that

it would not be necessary to close a project down to clear the pointers of the previous Thumbnail pictures. My only thought was

that somehow my copy of Toast got corrupted by something and that I would clear all parts of Toast from my system and

reinstall it again. I was in the middle of doing that went I read your reply, so when I have Toast fully reinstall I will inform

you if this solves the basis problem with the Thumbnail pictures. If this doesn't do the trick, your method that you laid out

will. Thanks again for your help!

[TK_Tech]

Tsantee, I tried changing memory cards during a project and the Thumbnail pictures from the last memory

card carried over to the Thumbnail pictures of the new memory card. So the version of Toast that I had

previous was not corrupted in any way. I think it is just a bug in the software that hopefully will get fixed in

the next update. Its funny!, when you change the memory card during a project session, all of the information

about the clip on the new memory card is correct except for the Thumbnail picture which is the Thumbnail

picture of the previous card... interesting!

 

Tsantee, I have a question for you, the method that you described in your reply above is certainly a valid

workaround for this bug; however, can I also use a Temporary Partition to the same job? and if so, what are

the pros and cons of each? Thanks again!

[tsantee]

I don't know how you'd send the video clips to a temporary partition. Are you making an AVCHD Archive or a different kind of project? If it isn't an archive then I presuming you are using the Media Browser to access the video clips. Is that where the thumbnails are not changing? You say the thumbnail does change after it is added to the project window.

 

I don't have an AVCHD camcorder so I've never tried to make a AVCHD Archive disc image. One important thing about Toast disc images is they need to be mounted in one of three ways: control-clicking on it in the Finder and choosing Mount It from the contextual menu, or choosing Mount disc image from Toast's Utilities menu, or choosing Disc image as a source in Toast's Copy or Convert windows.

[TK_Tech]

Tsantee thanks again for your interest. I want to make a Blu-Ray disc of video clips from my AVCHD camera.

My camera uses Memory Cards for storage. The problem that I am having is that the disc that I want to create

spans over 3 memory cards. So in order to bring all the video clips to the project area for editing, I need to

swap out memory cards during the process and this is where things get spooky. When I take out the current card

for a new one, the Thumbnail pictures from the previous card is in the place of the Thumbnail pictures of the new

card; however, everything else about the new set of video clips are correct (i.e., duration of the clips, time the

clips were taken, etc.).

 

(Note the problem with the Thumbnails pictures are occuring in the area on the right in Toast under the

Video section of the Media Settings and one of the options under the Video Menu is AVCHD and once you clic it,

below is where all of your video clips that is on the memory card are displayed and here is where problem

is with the Thumbnails pictures not in the project area).

 

Now after experimenting with Toast, the only thing that I found that would clear the old

Thumbnail pictures is to close Toast down, change my memory card in the camera and then fire Toast back up.

This is were I ran into my second problem. When I simply use the SAVE option for the project, Toast

loses its reference to all of the video clips in the project and when I start Toast and reference the project, Toast

blows up! the data for project can't be found. Tsantee, you pointed that out to me and it makes senses!

When I was doing my experimenting, I would create a project, drag a couple of clips to the project area and

try to do things that would enable me to change the memory cards out and see that the Thumbnail pictures for the

new video clips would be correct. I tried all kinds of things with the camera, tried changing the setting within Toast,

and finally tried changing some of the setting for the MAC, nothing worked! so I closed down Toast changed the memory

card out and fired Toast back up and the Thumbnail pictures for the new video clips were correct; however, I did not

reference the previous projects because if I had, the system would have crashed. To make a long story short, I

didn't have a complete solution to this bug until you responded to my question about the reason for the crash.

 

Now I can follow your prescription above for getting around this bug with the Thumbnails or I thought maybe I

could use a Temporary Partition to save my work while I change out memory cards. I thought that video clips

can be drag into a Temporary Partition as well and then burn a Blu-Ray disc. I am thinking that this could be

a bit more efficent. Please let me know what you think about this? Thanks again for your time!

[tsantee]

I don't have any first-hand experience with how Toast imports from an AVCHD camera. You are doing this correctly by using the Media Browser to access the clips. When you add the clips to the Toast window does Toast do the extraction at that time or does it just add a description of the video to the main window. If it does copy the video from the camera to the hard drive then it shouldn't matter a lot if the thumbnails in the media browser don't refresh for the next memory card. The thumbnails for your Blu-ray disc menu are set in the main project window. You can change those thumbnails in a couple ways. One is to click on the thumbnail in the project window and a scroll bar appears for selecting a different image from the video.

 

If Toast doesn't extract the video to the hard drive when you add it to the project window, then we do have a problem. Toast won't like it when you try to complete your project and all the videos aren't present on the memory card that's inserted at the time. In this case you should first create an AVCHD Archive which is one of the options in the Toast Video window. Toast treats an AVCHD archive disc the same as if a camcorder is connected. I don't have any experience with those, either, but if you can Save as Disc Image and then mount the resulting image file, Toast will treat it as an additional camcorder. So that may be a good workaround.

[TK_Tech]

Tsantee, thanks again for your help! Video on the memory card is not extracted when one drags video from

the memory card into the project area, unfortunately, so went a memory card is swapped-out, all references

to the data on the last card is lost except for a pointer to the images of the last card's Thumbnail pictures

which is in the place of the new Thumbnail pictures...Crazy! Without accurate Thumbnails, it is next to

impossible to process with a project. Now thinking about this point a little further, support that the Thumbnail

pictures changed, like they should, to the correct Thumbnails that represent the video clip of the new memory

card. This would not help things much because the data for the previous and older video clips is not in memory

and so as soon as you reference any of that data, Toast will blow up! The moral of this story is that Toast should

store on the hard drive everything that is dragged into the project area, well this is not what is...

The method of using AVCHD archive is a valid technique but I believe that references of the data would

be a bit slower that having the data on the hard drive. Besides, I personally don't like worrying about discs

during a project. I think that your method of creating separate disc images of each memory card and then

bringing all of them into your final project is the superior method. Thanks for all your help! -TK_Tech.