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After using Toast for decades on countless Mac systems, i've ran into problems starting up Toast Titanium 11.1 (1072) on a 2012 Mac Pro running 10.7.5. The application starts, shows the classic menu we all know, soon as you try to choose an option the application crashes completely. Tried the usual solutions & workarounds like trashing prefsfiles, plists, removing login items, installing under different user account, none work.

 

What i am NOT going to try is removing my AJA video card which was a suggestion in some forum here, as i think toast has NOTHING to do with this card, as the sole purpose of toast is to burn to disc.

 

Roxio (or Corel as it's called these days):

 

May we have our simple & straightforward disc burning application back please?

 

All we want to do is burn discs, that's what the original toast application was built for! no need for a useless 295 MB burning app. an installer over a GB (!) bloated with tivo, cover, catalog, spin doctor trash we do not need.

 

 

At least make it burn discs or give me my money back, i'm fed up with the useless support on this once the best beautiful and lean working burning app in the world..

 

Remember the ode from screensaver builders with the flying toasters? guess what the makers were raving about...

 

So sad to see yet another great piece of historic software shot to shambles by ever changing viewless companies.

 

Anyone have a good alternative?

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a good alternative with approx. the same features is what i meant to say.

 

Need to be able to burn data discs, mac /pc formats. etc. as easy as it was in toast before it went awol on me... :)

You mention owning earlier versions of Toast. Can you reinstall one of those? As for alternatives, try searching at macupdate.com. I'm sorry you're having trouble with the current version. When you got Toast 11 was it an earlier version than 11.1? If so, go back to it.

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Deleted all application files., prefs, etc. installed old toast 10 version, still freezes on starting up toast.. all other software works fine, except toast.. any other ideas?

There's something with your Mac that Toast doesn't recognize. Going back to my earlier suggestion of using Apple's disc burning, it does burn in both HFS+ and ISO9660 so the discs are readable on Macs and PCs. You also can use Disk Utility to create a temporary partition, drag files to it and when ready burn your disc image.

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So what direction should i be looking for the culprit then? Been using toast for ages in my workflows, would be a great step backwards if i had to do completely without it in the future.

You've already done all the troubleshooting I know to suggest. It could be the video card but if that was the issue then I'd expect Toast to crash when launching and not after you attempt to select a function. There were rare conflicts between Toast and some third-party VST plugins in the root>Library>Audio>Plugins>VST folder. You can check this by temporarily removing any non-apple plugins there and see if Toast launches and is usable. Toast also can react badly to a connected Firewire audio device because it thinks anything AV device connected via Firewire must be a camcorder.

 

Toast 11.1 is a cocoa rewrite of what had been carbon versions of all other Toast's since OS X. So if you have Toast 11.0.4 you might give it a try to see if that works instead.

 

I recall Toast having some objection to missing standard fonts. Maybe there is an issue with the driver for your video card. My best guess is it does have something to do with a third-party item in the root library. Have you tried starting up in safe mode?

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Just bought toast 11 TITANIUM TODAY and found out that the name speaks for itself, its useless, I'm toast, goodby to my hard earned money. wasted my time trying to launch it the first time, keep typing the product key and keep getting this invalid product key. Checked technical support which is also useless. Give my money back + cost of time I wasted working on this useless product.@#$%^&*()

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Ever since Corel acquired Roxio it's gone steadily down hill. Based on Corel's website and the general response to Toast 10 and now 11 issues I don't think they are doing little if any development beyond marketing.

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Seems like Toast has finally drawn it's own epiphany. Just go back to making a piece of software capable of burning cd's & dvd's, as that's all we wanted it to be in the first place.. none of the bloated unused stuff, just make us able to burn without hassle..... without the bloated shite....

 

corel, do us right & fix it NOW.

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I've never been so thoroughly livid following a software purchase. The fact that this product is by and large unusable on current machines (I purchased it based on good will from previous versions when I got my new MBP) yet it's still being sold is completely inappropriate.

 

Hugely disappointed and will be sure to warn everyone I know to stay as far away from this dishonestly marketed piece of junk as possible.

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On the machine i experienced these problems i've installed burn, a free and unbloated burning application. Works fine, now i wish there's someway i could get my money back from these software scamming turds at Corel.

 

Farewell Toast, it's been a great journey together all these years but the love affair ends here. :angry2:

 

I'll discourage all my contacts ANY use of Toast ever again, Corel, are you reading this?

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I wouldn't give up guys. I have a fairly new Mac Mini running OSX 10.8.2, and after purchasing Toast 11 directly from the ROXIO website several months ago I've had no problems burning discs, and I've burned quite a few (CDs, DVDs, and Blurays). In fact, I've found it quite useful in ways I never considered, mainly because it offers so many different options.

 

I'm no expert, so I can't offer suggestions for helping with your various situations, I'm just trying to point out that there are a least a few folks out here who are using this program successfully, so stick with it and keep trying different ideas. Good luck.

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I agree nothing but problems stepping from one to another and nowhere to turn apart from being almost forced to a users forum. Disgraceful and puts the company in a poor light in my opinion. I will be avoiding all their products in future unless they respond more positively.

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I upgraded from 11.06 to 11.1 about 6 months ago and it failed miserably. Having visited this forum back then I realised that most users were having problems, so I re-installed 11.06 which has worked fine since then. I came on this forum today hoping to hear that, after 6 months, they had fixed all the problems, but it appears that they have not. Very poor support.

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Toast 11.1 still works for me (apart from the occasional crash and increased boot times) but the burning speeds have gone from good to pathetic. When it first came out I couldn't get any better than 2x or Blu-Ray burning so I reverted to 11.0 where I had 8x.

 

Eventually I reinstalled 11.1 and it's been improved to 4x. It's still way too slow and I now have a burner capable of 15x that is superfluous with this program. It's possible to go into the burning menu and specify a higher speed (best is no longer best) but the last DVD I burnt was at a pathetic 4x when my drive can do 16x.

 

Support has never replied beyond an automated email when I write and I'm now searching for alternatives. Shame. It used to be a good program.

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Toast 11.1 still works for me (apart from the occasional crash and increased boot times) but the burning speeds have gone from good to pathetic. When it first came out I couldn't get any better than 2x or Blu-Ray burning so I reverted to 11.0 where I had 8x.

 

Eventually I reinstalled 11.1 and it's been improved to 4x. It's still way too slow and I now have a burner capable of 15x that is superfluous with this program. It's possible to go into the burning menu and specify a higher speed (best is no longer best) but the last DVD I burnt was at a pathetic 4x when my drive can do 16x.

 

Support has never replied beyond an automated email when I write and I'm now searching for alternatives. Shame. It used to be a good program.

The Toast 11.1 (1072) improved the burn speed problem but I believe Toast 11.0.4 does burn faster.

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Useless piece of shyte. Toast has been great, but 11.0 and updates onwards are pure carp. Be nice to know if Roxio is doing anything. Pretty puss poor when you can't burn CDs of artwork, can't make DVDs - can't make anything. Avoid like the plauge, but what alternative is there?!

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Useless piece of shyte. Toast has been great, but 11.0 and updates onwards are pure carp. Be nice to know if Roxio is doing anything. Pretty puss poor when you can't burn CDs of artwork, can't make DVDs - can't make anything. Avoid like the plauge, but what alternative is there?!

Toast 11.1 (1072) is working fine for me. Hard to tell why your experience is so different from mine.

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WellI have not been able to use Toast 11 since I upgraded to OSX 10.8. At first Toast would start then crash, now it crashes straight away. I have done troubleshooting as in disconnecting everything from my 27" iMac apart from keyboard and mouse. It still crashes. Started in Safe mode and Toast runs ok. I checked the root/library/audio/Plug-ins/VST directory for third party plug-ins but it is empty. There are no fire wire drives connected so it must be software but where do I go next??

Thanks for any further suggestions.

Mick.

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WellI have not been able to use Toast 11 since I upgraded to OSX 10.8. At first Toast would start then crash, now it crashes straight away. I have done troubleshooting as in disconnecting everything from my 27" iMac apart from keyboard and mouse. It still crashes. Started in Safe mode and Toast runs ok. I checked the root/library/audio/Plug-ins/VST directory for third party plug-ins but it is empty. There are no fire wire drives connected so it must be software but where do I go next??

Thanks for any further suggestions.

Mick.

Since it launches in Safe mode it is likely there is something in a Library that is contributing to the crash. Look in the root>QuickTime Library for third-party codecs. Temporarily remove any that are not Apple's. (Xvid codecs are incompatible but those haven't been around for a long time). If Toast launches after removing these, start adding them back to identify what is the culprit.

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Hi all,

 

This thread has been worrying me, so I did a little test myself. I give it to you for what it's worth. This said, I hope Corel people don't mind us doing their job, so they can sit back as they did on my support call?

 

I have a 15" MacBookPro, begin 2011, intel i7 at 2,2GHz, 8GB internal memory, video card Intel HD Video 3000 512MB. running MacOSX 10.7.5 and Toast 11.1 (1072) Titanium, with plug-in for Blu-ray burning onto DVD's. My disk burner is Pioneer BDR208, mounted in LaCie d2 drive (updated the firmware from LaCie site). The disks are Panasonic LM-BRS2MWE25, special archive disks (25y). I burn Data, Mac & PC, archiving video footage, nearly always spanned.

 

So far, Toast has done a good job for me (after I found out about the firmware update). It's much too slow, but that's another thread, see elsewhere in this forum. I installed Mac OSX 10.8 on a stick, started up, installed Toast under the new OS and tried to burn a small project spanned over 3 CD's. It worked fine. I have good hopes, that Toast will continue to do its job, but perhaps any of you has a suggestion for further testing? Would things go different using spanned Blu-rays (I would hate to see them go waisted).

 

My only concern right now is, that the whole program will be off the market soon, given all the bad experiences. It took me long to buy the license (because of initial bad experience re full price for upgrading, I had to swallow longtime), but I really see no alternative program, offering the same functionality. They are on top and they know it, so they think they can afford to be arrogant and for the moment they're right.

 

Paul

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They are on top and they know it, so they think they can afford to be arrogant and for the moment they're right.

 

Paul

It's not arrogance but profit that is the driver. Corel is recovering their expense in purchasing Roxio. As for the future I don't know if any further Toast updates or upgrades are in the works. Maybe Corel is planning something entirely new of their own design. Should Apple make a change in the OS that causes a major problem for Toast I expect that Toast will be updated to fix such an issue. Otherwise, my sense is this is what is available for some time to come. No version of Toast was ever without its problems.

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