Toast 11 Titanium = Useless

[Michelangelo]

After using Toast for decades on countless Mac systems, i've ran into problems starting up Toast Titanium 11.1 (1072) on a 2012 Mac Pro running 10.7.5. The application starts, shows the classic menu we all know, soon as you try to choose an option the application crashes completely. Tried the usual solutions & workarounds like trashing prefsfiles, plists, removing login items, installing under different user account, none work.

 

What i am NOT going to try is removing my AJA video card which was a suggestion in some forum here, as i think toast has NOTHING to do with this card, as the sole purpose of toast is to burn to disc.

 

Roxio (or Corel as it's called these days):

 

May we have our simple & straightforward disc burning application back please?

 

All we want to do is burn discs, that's what the original toast application was built for! no need for a useless 295 MB burning app. an installer over a GB (!) bloated with tivo, cover, catalog, spin doctor trash we do not need.

 

 

At least make it burn discs or give me my money back, i'm fed up with the useless support on this once the best beautiful and lean working burning app in the world..

 

Remember the ode from screensaver builders with the flying toasters? guess what the makers were raving about...

 

So sad to see yet another great piece of historic software shot to shambles by ever changing viewless companies.

 

Anyone have a good alternative?

[Mick3043]

WellI have not been able to use Toast 11 since I upgraded to OSX 10.8. At first Toast would start then crash, now it crashes straight away. I have done troubleshooting as in disconnecting everything from my 27" iMac apart from keyboard and mouse. It still crashes. Started in Safe mode and Toast runs ok. I checked the root/library/audio/Plug-ins/VST directory for third party plug-ins but it is empty. There are no fire wire drives connected so it must be software but where do I go next??

Thanks for any further suggestions.

Mick.

[ATOWAPaul]

Hi all,

 

This thread has been worrying me, so I did a little test myself. I give it to you for what it's worth. This said, I hope Corel people don't mind us doing their job, so they can sit back as they did on my support call?

 

I have a 15" MacBookPro, begin 2011, intel i7 at 2,2GHz, 8GB internal memory, video card Intel HD Video 3000 512MB. running MacOSX 10.7.5 and Toast 11.1 (1072) Titanium, with plug-in for Blu-ray burning onto DVD's. My disk burner is Pioneer BDR208, mounted in LaCie d2 drive (updated the firmware from LaCie site). The disks are Panasonic LM-BRS2MWE25, special archive disks (25y). I burn Data, Mac & PC, archiving video footage, nearly always spanned.

 

So far, Toast has done a good job for me (after I found out about the firmware update). It's much too slow, but that's another thread, see elsewhere in this forum. I installed Mac OSX 10.8 on a stick, started up, installed Toast under the new OS and tried to burn a small project spanned over 3 CD's. It worked fine. I have good hopes, that Toast will continue to do its job, but perhaps any of you has a suggestion for further testing? Would things go different using spanned Blu-rays (I would hate to see them go waisted).

 

My only concern right now is, that the whole program will be off the market soon, given all the bad experiences. It took me long to buy the license (because of initial bad experience re full price for upgrading, I had to swallow longtime), but I really see no alternative program, offering the same functionality. They are on top and they know it, so they think they can afford to be arrogant and for the moment they're right.

 

Paul

[tsantee]

Deleted all application files., prefs, etc. installed old toast 10 version, still freezes on starting up toast.. all other software works fine, except toast.. any other ideas?

There's something with your Mac that Toast doesn't recognize. Going back to my earlier suggestion of using Apple's disc burning, it does burn in both HFS+ and ISO9660 so the discs are readable on Macs and PCs. You also can use Disk Utility to create a temporary partition, drag files to it and when ready burn your disc image.

[tsantee]

WellI have not been able to use Toast 11 since I upgraded to OSX 10.8. At first Toast would start then crash, now it crashes straight away. I have done troubleshooting as in disconnecting everything from my 27" iMac apart from keyboard and mouse. It still crashes. Started in Safe mode and Toast runs ok. I checked the root/library/audio/Plug-ins/VST directory for third party plug-ins but it is empty. There are no fire wire drives connected so it must be software but where do I go next??

Thanks for any further suggestions.

Mick.

Since it launches in Safe mode it is likely there is something in a Library that is contributing to the crash. Look in the root>QuickTime Library for third-party codecs. Temporarily remove any that are not Apple's. (Xvid codecs are incompatible but those haven't been around for a long time). If Toast launches after removing these, start adding them back to identify what is the culprit.

[tsantee]

They are on top and they know it, so they think they can afford to be arrogant and for the moment they're right.

 

Paul

It's not arrogance but profit that is the driver. Corel is recovering their expense in purchasing Roxio. As for the future I don't know if any further Toast updates or upgrades are in the works. Maybe Corel is planning something entirely new of their own design. Should Apple make a change in the OS that causes a major problem for Toast I expect that Toast will be updated to fix such an issue. Otherwise, my sense is this is what is available for some time to come. No version of Toast was ever without its problems.

[veryverygary]

I've never been so thoroughly livid following a software purchase. The fact that this product is by and large unusable on current machines (I purchased it based on good will from previous versions when I got my new MBP) yet it's still being sold is completely inappropriate.

 

Hugely disappointed and will be sure to warn everyone I know to stay as far away from this dishonestly marketed piece of junk as possible.

[Michelangelo]

On the machine i experienced these problems i've installed burn, a free and unbloated burning application. Works fine, now i wish there's someway i could get my money back from these software scamming turds at Corel.

 

Farewell Toast, it's been a great journey together all these years but the love affair ends here.

 

I'll discourage all my contacts ANY use of Toast ever again, Corel, are you reading this?

[Derek Dean]

I wouldn't give up guys. I have a fairly new Mac Mini running OSX 10.8.2, and after purchasing Toast 11 directly from the ROXIO website several months ago I've had no problems burning discs, and I've burned quite a few (CDs, DVDs, and Blurays). In fact, I've found it quite useful in ways I never considered, mainly because it offers so many different options.

 

I'm no expert, so I can't offer suggestions for helping with your various situations, I'm just trying to point out that there are a least a few folks out here who are using this program successfully, so stick with it and keep trying different ideas. Good luck.

[Paul222]

I agree nothing but problems stepping from one to another and nowhere to turn apart from being almost forced to a users forum. Disgraceful and puts the company in a poor light in my opinion. I will be avoiding all their products in future unless they respond more positively.

[umojaresearch]

Tried Toast Titanium for MAC and found it's just another worthless piece of software with a 15 day warrarnty that lacks any real support. I can remember when Toast Software meant something to those purchasing it, but this is really not worth the time or money wasted on this product.

 

John

[JSmith]

I wouldn't give up guys. I have a fairly new Mac Mini running OSX 10.8.2, and after purchasing Toast 11 directly from the ROXIO website several months ago I've had no problems burning discs, and I've burned quite a few (CDs, DVDs, and Blurays). In fact, I've found it quite useful in ways I never considered, mainly because it offers so many different options.

 

I'm no expert, so I can't offer suggestions for helping with your various situations, I'm just trying to point out that there are a least a few folks out here who are using this program successfully, so stick with it and keep trying different ideas. Good luck.

 

My Toast was fine til yesterday after it took all day encoding a movie that I made; once that burn was done, I only get a "result code -5000" and it barely is able to stay open.. if someone can find me a solution to that would be great.

[gspanos]

Tried Toast Titanium for MAC and found it's just another worthless piece of software with a 15 day warrarnty that lacks any real support. I can remember when Toast Software meant something to those purchasing it, but this is really not worth the time or money wasted on this product.

 

John

 

This problem must be related to the operating system. My MacBook Pro is still on Lion, and Toast works fine for my purposes, mostly burning DVDs, BDs and CDs. But, it's also useful for converting MTS files and creating BDMV folders for Blu-Ray production. The very limited menu possibilities with Toast make it a poor choice for disc authoring, so I use Apple's iDVD for DVD production and Windows' TMPGEnc for Blu-Ray production.

[tsantee]

My Toast was fine til yesterday after it took all day encoding a movie that I made; once that burn was done, I only get a "result code -5000" and it barely is able to stay open.. if someone can find me a solution to that would be great.

It's best to choose Save as Disc Image instead of clicking the burn button whenever there is going to be lengthy encoding. Toast has trouble waking up the disc drive and that can cause problems. When you save as disc image you don't have to worry about starting over. In your case I'd probably restart the Mac so the optical drive gets reset. By the way, burn the disc image using the Image File setting in the Toast Copy window.

[tsantee]

I'm using Toast 11.1 (1072) and it seems to be working fine for me. I keep 11.0.4 around in case I need it but for what I'm using Toast to do it hasn't been necessary.

[BrandHOUSE]

Useless piece of shyte. Toast has been great, but 11.0 and updates onwards are pure carp. Be nice to know if Roxio is doing anything. Pretty puss poor when you can't burn CDs of artwork, can't make DVDs - can't make anything. Avoid like the plauge, but what alternative is there?!

[Michelangelo]

So what direction should i be looking for the culprit then? Been using toast for ages in my workflows, would be a great step backwards if i had to do completely without it in the future.

[wok]

Toast 11.1 still works for me (apart from the occasional crash and increased boot times) but the burning speeds have gone from good to pathetic. When it first came out I couldn't get any better than 2x or Blu-Ray burning so I reverted to 11.0 where I had 8x.

 

Eventually I reinstalled 11.1 and it's been improved to 4x. It's still way too slow and I now have a burner capable of 15x that is superfluous with this program. It's possible to go into the burning menu and specify a higher speed (best is no longer best) but the last DVD I burnt was at a pathetic 4x when my drive can do 16x.

 

Support has never replied beyond an automated email when I write and I'm now searching for alternatives. Shame. It used to be a good program.

[npatrick]

Just bought toast 11 TITANIUM TODAY and found out that the name speaks for itself, its useless, I'm toast, goodby to my hard earned money. wasted my time trying to launch it the first time, keep typing the product key and keep getting this invalid product key. Checked technical support which is also useless. Give my money back + cost of time I wasted working on this useless product.@#$%^&*()

[npatrick]

I agree. This product is useless and the technical support as well. The product name speaks for itself, Buy it, you're Toast!!!!! That's why its on sale at London Drugs, but still I paid $80.00 for this piece of s@#$.

[Derek Dean]

Howdy JSmith and welcome to the forum,

As usual, tsantee offers another good suggestion. When I first started using Toast 11, I had an issue burning directly to disc, but after reading many posts here on the forum (and thoroughly reading the manual) I tried saving my project as a Disc Image first (which you do by going to the File menu and selecting Save As Disc Image). The Disc Image is simply a file on your computer that functions exactly like a DVD. I will then check to make sure the Disc Image works as expected (which you do by selecting Mount Disc Image from the Utilities menu and then viewing it with either the Roxio or Apple DVD player, and don't forget to UNMOUNT the Disc Image when you are finished, which you do by either Ejecting it from the Finder or using the Eject button on the tool bar at the top right of your screen, a little triangle with a horizontal line under it). After that i found it easy to burn discs from that Disc Image by opening a new project using the COPY option and then selecting Image File as the source.

 

Good luck.

[Yowie80]

Toast 11 is not only useless but to us in Australia a blatant rip-off. The price for an on-line upgrade from version 9 to version 11 is more that double in OZ compared to the US despite the fact that our $ is worth $1.03US. Apart from that the bloody thing is as slow as a wet week. Blackmailed into upgrading by withdrawal of support for 9 - what a pack of bushrangers !

[tsantee]

Toast 11.1 still works for me (apart from the occasional crash and increased boot times) but the burning speeds have gone from good to pathetic. When it first came out I couldn't get any better than 2x or Blu-Ray burning so I reverted to 11.0 where I had 8x.

 

Eventually I reinstalled 11.1 and it's been improved to 4x. It's still way too slow and I now have a burner capable of 15x that is superfluous with this program. It's possible to go into the burning menu and specify a higher speed (best is no longer best) but the last DVD I burnt was at a pathetic 4x when my drive can do 16x.

 

Support has never replied beyond an automated email when I write and I'm now searching for alternatives. Shame. It used to be a good program.

The Toast 11.1 (1072) improved the burn speed problem but I believe Toast 11.0.4 does burn faster.

[tsantee]

Useless piece of shyte. Toast has been great, but 11.0 and updates onwards are pure carp. Be nice to know if Roxio is doing anything. Pretty puss poor when you can't burn CDs of artwork, can't make DVDs - can't make anything. Avoid like the plauge, but what alternative is there?!

Toast 11.1 (1072) is working fine for me. Hard to tell why your experience is so different from mine.

[tsantee]

Apple's built-in disc burning feature.

[Michelangelo]

a good alternative with approx. the same features is what i meant to say.

 

Need to be able to burn data discs, mac /pc formats. etc. as easy as it was in toast before it went awol on me...