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Hdmi->Dvi Converter Issues Like Everyone Else

Ednon

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I've searched a bunch on this forum because I noticed a lot of people had the same issue as me.

 

I use a computer monitor to play with my Xbox 360. It doesn't have an HDMI input, only a VGA and DVI-D input, so I bought an HDMI->DVI-D cable (one piece, no converter). I've played games like this for the past 6 months and haven't had a problem. I know it isn't the cable. This monitor's single purpose is to act as a monitor for my Xbox360, so there aren't any other inputs going into it. It also detects when there's a signal and automatically goes to it, so I don't have to manually switch from VGA to DVI.

 

When I have everything installed and all the correct cables plugged into the GameCapture card, I don't get anything that shows up on the monitor. There's a green light, meaning it's receiving a signal, but it's a black screen. If it weren't getting a signal, it would be yellow. My monitor is capable of working at 1080p and that's the resolution I normally play on when I'm using my HDMI->DVI-D cable. I tried to change the display resolution on my Xbox360 anyway and it didn't help. Using the Roxio GameCapture software, I can perfectly see that there's a signal from my Xbox360 to the capture device. I can see my Xbox dashboard on the preview screen on my computer and I can hear the sounds (through my computer speakers) while scrolling around.

 

My setup up is this: A regular HDMI cable goes from my Xbox360 to the GameCapture card, then my HDMI->DVI-D cable (the one I USUALLY use for gaming and know it works) goes from the GameCapture card to my monitor. The USB is plugged into my computer, which definitely passes the recommended specs.

 

I know the ONLY work around people have really been able to suggest is to spend another $5 on a HDMI splitter from Amazon. I assume you plug the splitter on the back of the Xbox360, put one HDMI cable in that leads to the Roxio GameCapture device, and the other HDMI->DVI-D cable to my monitor. My question with that is, does that even really work? Looking at some of the reviews on Amazon, I've seen several people have problems where a splitter will degrade the HDMI signal to the point where nothing will show up anyway.

 

Thanks for any help I can get. I hope this first post explained everything I needed to.

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I just ordered a powered splitter from Amazon for about $22. Amazon is generally good with returns. I'll be testing it out next Wednesday hopefully, and if nothing changes I'm returning everything.

Thanks for the help everyone, I'll give an update when I get to test things out. Hopefully this works.

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Sorry if my first post was misleading then. Everything ELSE works.

The GameCapture card works, the software works, I can see the preview on my computer and I can record.

The ONLY issue is that I can't see a signal on my monitor coming from the GameCapture card, and I know it isn't the HDMI->DVI-D wire because I'm using it for my Xbox360 right now.

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A lot has been posted since lunch, I just finnished reading up on the video standards and the results are,

 

If input is Component and output is HDMI:

  • The DVI-I and DVI-D standards do not include reading a YPbPr signal originating over HDMI interface. (From what I read so far.) Thus the YPbPr single passing through the HDMI will not be interoperable with a DVI & RGB only monitor.

You would need to have a custom monitor that supports YPbPr signaling over DVI-I/DVI-D (basically have an HDMI port, which makes the attempt to try this obsolete).

 

 

Summary -> Input Component / Output HDMI to DVI on a DVI/RGB only Monitor (non-HDMI & non-YPbPr compliant) is not compatable.

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I don't know what to tell you...

 

I tried a similar setup - HDMI out of the RGC and using a HDMI/DVI-D adapter, it works fine :huh:

 

I could try a splitter, but if my Monitor already Works with the HDMI/DVI-D adapter, I don't see that it would prove anything...

 

Is there any way you can try another monitor with it??? Otherwise make sure you can try and return a splitter before you plunk down the $50 for one!

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I can confirm that the splitter idea does NOT work. My powered splitter came in today and I tested it with this format:

 

Xbox360 > HDMI Splitter > Roxio

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Everything was plugged in correctly, and my monitor was receiving a signal with the green light, but it was still getting a black screen like before.

Now I'm wondering if it's because I'm using a HDMI->DVI-D wire? Should I try a HDMI wire with a DVI-D converter instead? I think that'll be my last attempt before I return everything on Monday.

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Wow! You really have been patient through this, my head would have exploded by now :o

 

A couple things to confirm!

 

Of course you must set the Monitor manually to DVI Input...

 

As a test, if you run the HDMI/DVI-D cable from your Xbox to the Monitor is it working that way?

 

If yes, once again try it from the Splitter then from the RGC Pass Through... (everything powered on)

 

I know this works, I have used a similar setup with mine!

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Like I said, I do set my monitor to DVI. I even tried on a different VGA/DVI monitor and I got the same results of a black screen.

 

When I run the HDMI/DVI cable from my Xbox to my monitor, it works. It's always worked this way, this is how I usually game.

 

I think there's something INSIDE the cable that's preventing it from working with the RGC and splitter though. That's my only explanation I can come up with, because even though HDMI and DVI are supposed to be the same signal, my Xbox screen resolution menu doesn't say HDMI, it says DVI+A.

 

I think the solution may be to use one of those HDMI->DVI adapters in your setup, but shipping on that might take too long for my cut off date to return the RGC. Either that, or buy a new HDMI monitor for $200, but I'd like to avoid putting that much more money into this :P

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The output setting for the Xbox must be set to HDMI!!!

 

The Xbox could care less what happens to the signal after it leaves the box ;) But since you are connecting from Xbox to the RGC Device with HDMI, that is what you need to set it as.

 

Isn't there anything else you can test it on? Another TV or Monitor???

 

I guess I got 'Dumb Lucky' with mine... Went to Phila got an HDMI to DVI-D adapter (and Component Cables for other testing) and slapped it on when I got home. It worked!

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Well, the HDMI+DVI adapter didn't work either.

 

As I've said, I tried on two different monitors and neither of them worked.

 

I've fiddled with the settings as best as I could. I'm honestly completely out of ideas aside from buying a $200 hdmi tv, but I don't want to spend that kind of money to make a capture card work.

 

I'm genuinely surprised this isn't an issue that's been solved by the manufacturers already, I see a lot of people crying for help regarding the same issue of using a DVI monitor, but no one seems to have a viable solution.

 

My only option from this point is just to return the RGC and give up any ideas of recording games as a hobby :P

 

Thanks to everyone that's helped!

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Yes, that monitor says that (One (1) DVI-D with HDCP Support) but the link to where you bought yours didn't!

 

They make several variations of the same monitor as each improvement adds $'s to the cost.

 

The link that Ednon posted for "his" monitor says that HDCP is supported.

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I've never seen that message on my monitor before

This is the exact same model: http://www.geeks.com...d=IH254DPB-PB-R

It says HDCP support

  • Connectors:
  • One (1) 15-pin VGA
  • One (1) DVI-D with HDCP

 

Yes, that monitor says that (One (1) DVI-D with HDCP Support) but the link to where you bought yours didn't!

 

They make several variations of the same monitor as each improvement adds $'s to the cost.

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