Production Created In Videowave, Cannot Get To Burn In Mydvd

[Festive]

I videotaped a play with Sony HD camcorder. Converted Sony m2ts files to MPEG2 file and used the MPEG2 file as the basis of the video in Videowave. I added overlays, special affects, scrolling credits. Saved the movie production. I then output the movie production to MyDVD as AVCHD. The production looks beautiful when played in Videowave or MyDVD. I saved the image file as I want to make many copies. I also burned one immediately to a DVD, but our bluray player will not load the file. When I put the DVD into my Dell laptop, or my Dell workstation, it doesn't recognize the DVD. What might I be doing wrong? These same memorex DVDs are recognized when I burn a plain video file to them, the problem appears when I try to burn a movie production. Thanks for anyone's consideration and experience.

[Jim_Hardin]

The Fit to Disc setting is an absolute pain!!! EVERY TIME you open MyDVD or start a New Project, it defaults to that setting and nothing can be done about that

 

To fit 65 minutes on a 4.7 DVD it had to drop quality to EP - which explains the lack of quality

 

This is what you can expect from DVD media:

 

DVD AVCHD Capacity:

AVCHD on a 4.7 DVD (thanks to ggrussell)

• HQ – 00:40:24 @ 1920 X 1080P = 40 min
  
• SP – 00:50:16 @ 1920 X 1080I
  
• LP – 1:00:00 @ 1440 X 1080I
  
• EP – 1:24:31 1280 X 720P

 

AVCHD on 8.5 DVD

• HQ – 1:13
  
• SP – 1:24
  
• LP – 1:39
  
• EP – 2:15

 

I have to run now, I'll drop back later with a few suggestions

[Jim_Hardin]

Suggestions...

 

To maintain your Quality AND the time you have, use an 8.5 GB disc!

 

But if you have a 4.7 GB DVD RW disc you might want put together a test disc at HQ or SP to test it out.

 

Most of us normally do a 2 step Burn to eliminate wasting time and discs!

 

First step is to burn to Folder or Image

 

Step 2 is to burn that folder or image onto the media...

 

You Can use a Viewer to look at the results between the steps

 

I always go the Folder route then use the Roxio App, Burn Data Disc to burn my Folder.

 

Others prefer the Image (iso) and then use the app, Burn Disc Image to burn that file to disc.

 

Either way has stood up over time and really does not take any more time than trying to burn directly from MyDVD...

[Festive]

I do plan to purchase the 8.5 GB dual layer discs in the near future, I am very excited to learn about those, and my burner supports them, but they appear to be very expensive. For now, I did as you previously wrote and bought some RWs. (What a great idea, we've re-burned to them a few times already.) So I should burn the HD video file or image, and then burn it to the current 4.7 standard disc using HQ or SP? This will fit it on the disc, and you expect the outcome to be clearer? The sd version burned beautifully, no problem. The hd version was too big, and thus created those horizontal lines. I/we greatly appreciate you sharing your expertise.

[Jim_Hardin]

Yes you will have to stay within the times I listed for the media.

 

It would be worth it to trim one so that it fits on the RW at HQ just to see what that looks like

 

I usually make up a test project consisting of scenic portions and panning portions that hopefully have detail that I can compare.

 

Lengths should be 5 seconds minimum per scene otherwise it looks like a video version of a ransom note

 

The whole thing should only be a minute or 2 in length, then burn one at HQ and one SQ or LP so you can compare results.

 

Some years ago I have a scene (DVD) where you could see wood paneling behind the subject at SP but when rendered at HQ you could see the GRAIN in the wood

[bimicher]

I videotaped a play with Sony HD camcorder. Converted Sony m2ts files to MPEG2 file and used the MPEG2 file as the basis of the video in Videowave. I added overlays, special affects, scrolling credits. Saved the movie production. I then output the movie production to MyDVD as AVCHD. The production looks beautiful when played in Videowave or MyDVD. I saved the image file as I want to make many copies. I also burned one immediately to a DVD, but our bluray player will not load the file. When I put the DVD into my Dell laptop, or my Dell workstation, it doesn't recognize the DVD. What might I be doing wrong? These same memorex DVDs are recognized when I burn a plain video file to them, the problem appears when I try to burn a movie production. Thanks for anyone's consideration and experience.

 

How long in time is that AVCHD project? Exactly how did you burn to DVD? Please describe this part in more detail

 

Can you play the image file using the VLC video player?

BTW, Memorex DVds are considered bottom of the barrel in quality.

[Jim_Hardin]

Lots of questions here

 

First, Look at the disc with Windows Explorer!

 

Does the structure look like this:

 

 

That is proper AVCHD Project on a DVD. If it doesn't look like that it will not work!

 

More questions, why would you convert an m2ts file instead of simply loading it into your Project???

 

Do you have a disc or 2 of DVD RW on hand for testing? (it can be erased and reused)

 

I agree with Walt on Memorex

[Festive]

Walt:

 

Length: from Windows Explorer view, the AVCHD project ISO image file is 4,384,704 KB. When in MyDVD, the usage bar shows 4501.9 MB.

 

Burn: To burn the image file, I went to Roxio Creator NTX, Home, Burn Disc Image, it shows the ISO image file I want to burn on the left, and copy to information on the right which reads: HL-DT-ST-DVD+-RW DL (H:) and beneath that is reads "DVD-R, blank media". It pops the disc back out.

 

I have also tried burning the movie production file (not image file) directly from MyDVD using "burn to disc". It tells me the drive is empty, capacity of current disc 0.0 Mb, estimate size of project 4501.9 MB.

 

I do not know what VLC video player is. I just know enough about this stuff to be dangerous and know that somehow, it can get done. We have burned straight videos a lot, but I'm very new to creating movie productions.

 

My burner is on a Dell Dimension E510. It is a combo. DVD R/RW and CD

 

Jim:

 

Yes, the structure is identical to what you have shown above.

 

We only have -Rs, will pick up a few RWs today. Suggested brand?

 

The reason I changed from m2ts to MPEG2 is that once I had created the movie production in VideoWave, it was horribly choppy. I tried all of the fixes for choppy video recommended by Roxio, and it was still choppy (audio was fine, but image was choppy and behind audio). I thought maybe converting from m2ts to MPEG2 might make resolve the issue, and surprisingly it did.

[Festive]

As mentioned before, the sd and AVCHD files play beautiful and clear in VideoWave. I just attempted to burn the ISO AVCHD file using Burn from Disc again, however this time, instead of using the screen information and hitting the green arrow signaling to start burning, when the little burner with CD icon came up, I typed in the name of the video and inserted the AVCHD file, selected the flame AND IT BURNED! It is currently playing in our blu ray player. However, a new problem has arose. There are grainy lines through it. What now?

[Jim_Hardin]

SIZE is measured in Bytes, kb, mb or gb...

 

TIME is measured in Hours, minutes, seconds & frames.

 

File Size has no meaning in Video work, only Time

 

Brands??? Top ones are Verbatim (Singapore) and Taiyo Yuden (JVC). Others aren't worth bringing home.

 

I have no issue with changing the files under those circumstances... Although I would bet that if you lower your camcorder setting to FX, they will work You will still get the 1920 X 1080 only at a slightly lower bitrate.

 

Without knowing what output settings you used or the TIME, won't even venture a guess to the graininess.

[Festive]

The movie is about 65 minutes long. When I burned the movie, I used whatever defaults are set in MyDVD. I'm wondering if I should slow the down burn speed. Currently I think it is burning at the fastest speed available. The actual m2ts file is very clear, the movie production is very clear, yet the burned AVCHD production has like vertical lines across the screen the closer you get to the screen. From the back of the room, it looks fine.

[Festive]

correction - horizontal lines

[bimicher]

The movie is about 65 minutes long. When I burned the movie, I used whatever defaults are set in MyDVD. I'm wondering if I should slow the down burn speed. Currently I think it is burning at the fastest speed available. The actual m2ts file is very clear, the movie production is very clear, yet the burned AVCHD production has like vertical lines across the screen the closer you get to the screen. From the back of the room, it looks fine.

 

A standard 4.7GB DVD can only hold 60 minutes of standard video. So myDVD be default uses the "fit-to-disc" setting which will give you the worst quality.

If you are creating an AVCHD on a standard DVD then you can only get about 40 minutes on the DVD at best quality.

[Festive]

How, then, do I burn this movie? And I'll note never to use fit to disc - how do I avoid that from happening? Thanks again.