breasons Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 I have a Windows operating system and I am Looking For a CD Burner to burn Raw Images for Safe keeping.I have Looked on the internet but the sites I visted did not tell if it supported RAW Files.I did download a 15 day free trial and in order to get it I had to download a sercurity tool Bar,it waS avg i believe.Then I had a hard time getting rid of it after I downloaded.That made me so mad if I wanted security software"That I already have",Iwould have downloaded it.So I uninstalled the whole download.So that is the reason I am here hopeing You can help me find a Good CD Burner by Roxio......Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sknis Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 I have a Windows operating system and I am Looking For a CD Burner to burn Raw Images for Safe keeping.I have Looked on the internet but the sites I visted did not tell if it supported RAW Files.I did download a 15 day free trial and in order to get it I had to download a sercurity tool Bar,it waS avg i believe.Then I had a hard time getting rid of it after I downloaded.That made me so mad if I wanted security software"That I already have",Iwould have downloaded it.So I uninstalled the whole download.So that is the reason I am here hopeing You can help me find a Good CD Burner by Roxio......Thanks Where did you get RAW negatives? What scanner are you using to get negatives? Are you just talking about RAW files? RAW files are just data files from your camera so that ANY burner can burn a cd of those files and you can use Windows to copy or move the files to a storage device of your choice (external USB hard drives are inexpensive). You said that you wanted to just have a disc for safekeeping. Is that all.? You will eventually need to have a Photo Editor to convert the RAW file to a more useful type of file. Your camera probably came with or you can download a RAW converter. Corel's Paint Shop Pro will work with RAW files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimicher Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 I have a Windows operating system and I am Looking For a CD Burner to burn Raw Images for Safe keeping.I have Looked on the internet but the sites I visted did not tell if it supported RAW Files.I did download a 15 day free trial and in order to get it I had to download a sercurity tool Bar,it waS avg i believe.Then I had a hard time getting rid of it after I downloaded.That made me so mad if I wanted security software"That I already have",Iwould have downloaded it.So I uninstalled the whole download.So that is the reason I am here hopeing You can help me find a Good CD Burner by Roxio......Thanks I don't understand your post. A "CD burner" is a hardware device and you can't download it. If all you want to do is burn data files to a CD for archiving then your system should be able to do it. You do not need any special program to burn RAW files to a CD. Perhaps you should explain exactly what iit is you want to do. BTW, you do not have to download any "sucurity bar" when you download software, if you did it is because you choose to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breasons Posted August 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Where did you get RAW negatives? What scanner are you using to get negatives? Are you just talking about RAW files? RAW files are just data files from your camera so that ANY burner can burn a cd of those files and you can use Windows to copy or move the files to a storage device of your choice (external USB hard drives are inexpensive). You said that you wanted to just have a disc for safekeeping. Is that all.? You will eventually need to have a Photo Editor to convert the RAW file to a more useful type of file. Your camera probably came with or you can download a RAW converter. Corel's Paint Shop Pro will work with RAW files. Thank you for the tip about Corel's Paint Shop Pro,I already have Adobe Photoshop for editing. To answer you Question aboutWhat a Raw negativeis. A Raw negative is when you shoot a digital image in Raw format it becomes your negative,before any editing or sharpning is done.These Raw negatives are put on Cd's for safe storage,so you can go back later if a new technique comes out you can always go back and add it to your negative....Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breasons Posted August 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 I don't understand your post. A "CD burner" is a hardware device and you can't download it. If all you want to do is burn data files to a CD for archiving then your system should be able to do it. You do not need any special program to burn RAW files to a CD. Perhaps you should explain exactly what iit is you want to do. BTW, you do not have to download any "sucurity bar" when you download software, if you did it is because you choose to do it. I am sorry I mean a CD BUrner Software So I can save my Raw negatives to a CD before anything is done to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimicher Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 I am sorry I mean a CD BUrner Software So I can save my Raw negatives to a CD before anything is done to them. I have heard the RAW format images called "digital negatives" but never as "RAW negatives" If you can burn any type of data file to a CD with your system burner with existing software then you do not need any special software to burn the RAW file. They are just "data" files just like any other file. Since RAW files are much larger (2 to 6 times) then jpeg files you might consider burning them to a DVD or get a dedicated external hard drive to store/archive them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breasons Posted August 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 I have heard the RAW format images called "digital negatives" but never as "RAW negatives" If you can burn any type of data file to a CD with your system burner with existing software then you do not need any special software to burn the RAW file. They are just "data" files just like any other file. Since RAW files are much larger (2 to 6 times) then jpeg files you might consider burning them to a DVD or get a dedicated external hard drive to store/archive them. I do not want to burn a jpeg file,I could do that with windows xp pro.But windows xp pro will not support a Raw image.That is why i am looking for a cd burning software that will support a CRW Raw image.Can you recomend a good software to do this.I do not care about a video software,just photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sknis Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Again, using Windows (Files and Folders - not Windows Photo Gallery) to copy the RAW files directly from your camera or from a folder on your camera does not strip the RAW image data nor does it convert the RAW to another format. Do you have the file association in Windows turned off so no program (like PhotoShop) automatically tries to open/edit the RAW files? Who said you had to convert the RAW file? RAW files are just data files (with all the properties included). The actual information depends on the camera that took the RAW images. My camera takes NEF files and they are handled by Windows if I want to transfer them to a disc, disk or thumb drive. Windows should not strip the attached data with the image. How are you getting the RAW files from your camera to your computer? Why don't you just copy the RAW files directly from your camera to a hard drive or disc? Are you suggesting that the RAW file has a subfile associated with it that are not being transferred? Are your RAW files in the order of 8Mb? That would mean that the additional information is included. A typical jpeg file would be much smaller. Have you looked at any photographic forums for an answer? Are you a professional photographer or a consumer photographer? At least two of us are confused about what the issue is. Could you explain a little more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_deweywright Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 I do not want to burn a jpeg file,I could do that with windows xp pro.But windows xp pro will not support a Raw image.That is why i am looking for a cd burning software that will support a CRW Raw image.Can you recomend a good software to do this.I do not care about a video software,just photos. When you say that "Windows XP pro will not support a Raw image," what do you mean by that? Do you get an error when you try to write a .RAW file to a CD? If so, what is the error message? Unless Windows thinks it's some sort of system file, there should be no problem copying a .RAW file to CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sknis Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 doh ! Are you talking about the xmp files that can go along with the RAW file? Just make sure you copy them to the same folder on the cd (or long term memory). They are not needed if you are going to convert the images at a later date. I use a Eye-Fi card in my Nikon; the xml files are the location where I took the pictures. You mentioned PhotoShop. If you are talking about PhotoShop XML files, this may be helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimicher Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 I do not want to burn a jpeg file,I could do that with windows xp pro.But windows xp pro will not support a Raw image.That is why i am looking for a cd burning software that will support a CRW Raw image.Can you recomend a good software to do this.I do not care about a video software,just photos. Like Dave, I do not understand what you mean by "windows xp pro will not support a Raw image". Any Windows OS will burn CRW RAW photo files to a CD. They are simply data files just like a Adobe pdf or a Microsoft doc file when you simply want to copy. You do not need any special program to burn them if all you want is to archive them in their original format. I just took several CRW RAW files (they have the extension CR2 for my Canon DSLR camera) and I copied them from the camera chip to my hard drive as well as to a USB stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimicher Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 doh ! Are you talking about the xmp files that can go along with the RAW file? Just make sure you copy them to the same folder on the cd (or long term memory). They are not needed if you are going to convert the images at a later date. I use a Eye-Fi card in my Nikon; the xml files are the location where I took the pictures. You mentioned PhotoShop. If you are talking about PhotoShop XML files, this may be helpful. I do not have any XMP files when I take pictures in the RAW format with my Canon DSLR.. That may only be with Nikons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_deweywright Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Okay, so, .CRW is an older file extension from Canon. Wikipedia link here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerbank Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Boy this has certainly gotten confusing with all the questions and the introduction of issues that are possibly irrelevant. From what can be discerned from the initial question, this person has taken digital photos using the RAW format. Not the Jpeg format. Or this person could have taken photos in both RAW and Jpeg formats concurrently. RAW files are uncompressed digital image files as opposed to compressed Jpeg files. RAW digital files contain more detailed information than compressed Jpeg files. Therefore, the digital images can be manipulated and modified, much like ordiary film can be manipulated during the developing process. Not knowing which brand digital camera was used, the majority of cameras include a software package that permits the transfer (download) of digital images to a computer or other data saving device. When downloaded and saved to a computer file created by the included software, the file(s) can then be transferred and saved to cd, dvd or some other data saving device such as an external hard drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimicher Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Boy this has certainly gotten confusing with all the questions and the introduction of issues that are possibly irrelevant. From what can be discerned from the initial question, this person has taken digital photos using the RAW format. Not the Jpeg format. Or this person could have taken photos in both RAW and Jpeg formats concurrently. RAW files are uncompressed digital image files as opposed to compressed Jpeg files. RAW digital files contain more detailed information than compressed Jpeg files. Therefore, the digital images can be manipulated and modified, much like ordiary film can be manipulated during the developing process. Not knowing which brand digital camera was used, the majority of cameras include a software package that permits the transfer (download) of digital images to a computer or other data saving device. When downloaded and saved to a computer file created by the included software, the file(s) can then be transferred and saved to cd, dvd or some other data saving device such as an external hard drive. You do not need any "included software" to transfer the RAW files from the camera to your computer and then burn them to a "storage device" Windows XP, Vista, etc will do it. The make/model of camera does not matter. That is what I have been telling the original poster. There is nothing confusing or irrelevant about that. BTW, most likely the OP is using a Canon DSLR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerbank Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Come on, you have to admit that while your response was on target, the majority of the responses are somewhat confusing. While the person may have not been precise in asking the question, it seemed pretty clear what he wanted to do. That is, save the RAW digital images to a DVD for safe keeping. I mentioned transferring the image files to a computer because that's what is ordinarily done under most circumstances to determine which images to keep, especially when shooting in RAW because the files are large. Moreover, at some point the saved images will most likely be photoshopped and/or printed or possibly e-mailed which requires a conversion to a compatible format. These tasks are best accomplished on a computer. Photoshopping is also more likely since shooting in RAW allows more manipulation of the images than when shot in Jpeg. Now there is a circumstance under which it does make sense to save the images directly to an external device without going through a computer. For example when on vacation or a shooting trip. Saving them to an external device makes sense for several reasons; requires one to have and carry less numerous memory cards, or memory cards that are quite large in memory capacity, which can be cumbersome when looking for a specific image; for safety purposes (images could be inadvertently deleted, memory card could be misplaced or lost). One thing is certain about this individual...this individual is serious about his photography since the photo images are shot in the RAW format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sknis Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Actually they were shot in the crw format which is a type of RAW image. PhotoShop can produce an xml file while working with and type of RAW image. It details some of what was done to the RAW image. The OP hasn't been very forthcoming in describing his problem or responding to questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimicher Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Come on, you have to admit that while your response was on target, the majority of the responses are somewhat confusing. While the person may have not been precise in asking the question, it seemed pretty clear what he wanted to do. That is, save the RAW digital images to a DVD for safe keeping. I mentioned transferring the image files to a computer because that's what is ordinarily done under most circumstances to determine which images to keep, especially when shooting in RAW because the files are large. Moreover, at some point the saved images will most likely be photoshopped and/or printed or possibly e-mailed which requires a conversion to a compatible format. These tasks are best accomplished on a computer. Photoshopping is also more likely since shooting in RAW allows more manipulation of the images than when shot in Jpeg. Now there is a circumstance under which it does make sense to save the images directly to an external device without going through a computer. For example when on vacation or a shooting trip. Saving them to an external device makes sense for several reasons; requires one to have and carry less numerous memory cards, or memory cards that are quite large in memory capacity, which can be cumbersome when looking for a specific image; for safety purposes (images could be inadvertently deleted, memory card could be misplaced or lost). One thing is certain about this individual...this individual is serious about his photography since the photo images are shot in the RAW format. I agree, the OP was very clear on what he wants to do with his RAW images: he simply wants to archive them on a CD as he stated in his original post. He is not interested in doing any editing or converting at this time, so any references to jpegs, PhotoShow or whatever is irrelevant and confusing. The problem is that the OP wanted a "specific" program to burn the RAW images to a CD. He has been told several times that that is not necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerbank Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 If the OP has an external drive, or buys one, and then connects it to his computer via USB, this external drive should show up on the computer as an additional, separate drive from the built-in hard drive. If the digital images are already in files on the computer the files can be transferred to the external drive. If, however, the images still remain on the camera memory card and the computer has built-in memory card reader slots, the camera memory card can be inserted in the appropriate card reader slot (I say appropriate because there are different sized memory cards such as SDHC, Memory Stick Duo, or the larger sized flash card). The computer should recognize the memory card. The image transfer can be accomplished individually by drag and drop, or all can be transferred directly to the external storage device. One caveat about transferring digital images directly from the camera via USB cable, particularly with large capacity memory cards and RAW images. The camera battery might deplete before the transfer is completed. That's why a small card reader or the card readers in a computer are the best way to transfer images. It's the fastest way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sknis Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 outerbank Quote from my first post #2 in this thread: "RAW files are just data files from your camera so that ANY burner can burn a cd of those files and you can use Windows to copy or move the files to a storage device of your choice (external USB hard drives are inexpensive). " Others have stated the same thing. The OP came back with "But windows xp pro will not support a Raw image" I am still trying to figure out why that statement was made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdanteek Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 windows xp pro will not support a Raw image May be this is what the OP is referring to? http://www.microsoft...ls.aspx?id=8802 I agree XP should burn them as a data disc and XP can burn to CD's within the software but not to DVD's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandpabruce Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Breasons only needs the proper Codec from the manufacturer of his camera, and XP will let you see the RAW files and burn them to a DVD with most any burning software. That codec should be readily available from the manufacturer. The codecs for my Nikons worked a treat in XP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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