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burning rewritable DVD

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I am learning how to use my new puter and the methods of EMC8. Thanks to all who have commented on my previous posts.

I have had many failures and no successes with burning DVD on re-writable discs from a successful production in EMC8. The production was burned successfully both from a saved production and from a disc image on non-rewritable DVD +/ - blanks. The burned RW's seem to have data dropouts and hang up on both video and audio when playback is attempted. I upgraded the firmware on both DVD burners in my puter, tried playback of the +/- rewritables on two different console players, tried new discs, tried them on two different DVD players on my computer with no success.

Comments or suggestions would be most welcome! :)

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I am learning how to use my new puter and the methods of EMC8. Thanks to all who have commented on my previous posts.

I have had many failures and no successes with burning DVD on re-writable discs from a successful production in EMC8. The production was burned successfully both from a saved production and from a disc image on non-rewritable DVD +/ - blanks. The burned RW's seem to have data dropouts and hang up on both video and audio when playback is attempted. I upgraded the firmware on both DVD burners in my puter, tried playback of the +/- rewritables on two different console players, tried new discs, tried them on two different DVD players on my computer with no success.

Comments or suggestions would be most welcome! :)

 

What brand of DVD RW are you using? What does DVD Info Pro say about burn errors. Have you used the iso method of encoding and burning the discs? You might consider burning at a lower speed and checking for updated firm ware for that burner.

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What brand of DVD RW are you using? What does DVD Info Pro say about burn errors. Have you used the iso method of encoding and burning the discs? You might consider burning at a lower speed and checking for updated firm ware for that burner.

 

Thanks, Skinis. I used Maxell and one other brand (which brand I do not recall), I used iso method of encoding, I upgraded the firmware for both burners two days ago, and do not know what DVD Pro is or what it says about error messages. I will try again using slower burn speed.

 

...and I apologize profusely for constantly misspelling your name! :)

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Thanks, Skinis. I used Maxell and one other brand (which brand I do not recall), I used iso method of encoding, I upgraded the firmware for both burners two days ago, and do not know what DVD Pro is or what it says about error messages. I will try again using slower burn speed.

 

...and I apologize profusely for constantly misspelling your name! :huh:

 

I have been called worse. :) no problem, I even answer to "hey you" and "the other Steve".

In V8 home page, look to the right and you'll see DVD InfoPro. You can see who really made the disc and you can run the CRC test to see if there are read errors. In most cases these are caused by bad discs.

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I have been called worse. :) no problem, I even answer to "hey you" and "the other Steve".

In V8 home page, look to the right and you'll see DVD InfoPro. You can see who really made the disc and you can run the CRC test to see if there are read errors. In most cases these are caused by bad discs.

On the right of homepage for EMC8 I see a menu for Most Frequent Tasks beginning with

create DVD and ending with Quick DVD. I can find nothing that refers to DVD InfoPro.

 

My confidence in my abilities are only exceeded by my frustration and fury at the apparently unnecessary quirks in this software :huh:

 

FORGET IT.............I FOUND IT. Operator trouble again :D

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I did the test on a written -RW disc. It ran a LONG time. I stopped it when over 700 errors were logged. Most of them were something like "771. Error - LBA = 00003a50h".

My method in using RW discs was to see how the production looks before permanently putting it on a disc. You see, I am thrifty (skinflint?) and do not want to waste 22 cents on trial discs. :)

 

Where can I find out what the errors mean?

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I did the test on a written -RW disc. It ran a LONG time. I stopped it when over 700 errors were logged. Most of them were something like "771. Error - LBA = 00003a50h".

My method in using RW discs was to see how the production looks before permanently putting it on a disc. You see, I am thrifty (skinflint?) and do not want to waste 22 cents on trial discs. :)

 

Where can I find out what the errors mean?

 

Those read errors mean that your burner did not write properly to whatever media you used.

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Apologies for butting in here, I usually stay down on ECDC 5 and 6.

 

However, a bit of clarification about the media you are using. There are 3 kinds of media:

  • professionally pressed discs, with the pits and lands physically pressed into the metal
  • R media, with the pits and lands created by "cooking" a dye with the laser
  • RW media, with the pits and lands created by melting and recrystalizing an aluminum alloy with a laser (at a lower temperature than R media). The alloy promptly starts to de-crystalize, taking the data with it

DVD/RW and CD-RW are not some kind of "great-big floppy-disc". They are useful for testing, since the entire disc can be erased and reused. They are used by some to download music legally, then the music is "ripped" to the Hard Drive and the disc is erased. They can be used to move files from one computer to another, but I'd suggest a Flash drive is handier.

 

If you "delete" something on RW media, you won't get the space back, any more than with R media - you merely remove it from the TOC [Table of Contents]. You erase the ENTIRE disc, nothing less.

 

It is possible, then, that your reader is encountering problems because of the lesser reflectivity of RW media (which is less than R media, which is less than commercially pressed media). It is also possible the decrystalization is underway.

 

RW media is NOT recommended for anything you expect to keep more than a few days - it may last for years, but it may simply refuse to be read for any reason, or none at all, at any time.

 

Lynn

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Much thanks, Lynn and Grandpa! I am afraid, though, that TMI for this ol newbie (is that an oxymoron?) has given me a headache. Your info is indeed helpful but I am afraid that is the biggest problem with puters and life itself....SORTING! :)

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If the only reason you are burning on the RW disc is to test how the finished product looks, you can also use Disc Image Loader to load the ISO image. This will load and play exactly as the RW disc would.

 

Once you have tested your ISO, use Disc Copier to burn it to your R disc.

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If the only reason you are burning on the RW disc is to test how the finished product looks, you can also use Disc Image Loader to load the ISO image. This will load and play exactly as the RW disc would.

 

Once you have tested your ISO, use Disc Copier to burn it to your R disc.

 

Thanks, willatrox. This closes the subject for me. My object was to see the production on my large screen TV from a disc but your suggestiion is noted and understood.

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