Best Way To Pre Render In Slow Motion In Videoeave

[wade1953]

Hi there... I am currently editing a wedding video in video wave. During the procession I wanted to slow-motion the people as they were walking up the aisle. When I have tried to do this in the past by selecting the speed selector in the video trimmer... It tends to slow everything down. Therefore I have discovered through trial and error it seems easier to free render the slow motion segments.

 

My question is The best file type to pre-render these slow motion segments? The ultimate delivery method is going to be standard DVD. Therefore would I want to pre-render in "DVD best quality mode"? Or would I want to pre-render the slow motion segments in an AVI file format? If so which AVI file format as there are several to choose from. Thank you...

[Jim_Hardin]

Keep it the same as your Source

[wade1953]

Okay... Not really sure how helpful that is. Let me break this down: My original "Source" footage is a standard mini-dv tape captured via Roxio video capture with a firewire 1364 from the Panasonic camera it was originally recorded on. The capture setting were "DV AVI." So, HOW am I keeping the subsequent footage that has been slowed down in VideoWave the "same as the source?" I am outputting the slow mo footage via the Output tab in VideoWave. There are many different flavors of AVI files available there... for instance: GENERAL EDITING - GENERIC AVI - LARGE SIZE - (which, incidentally yields a 680 x 420 size file - smaller that the 720 x 480 file my original footage was captured at). Other AVI options are available under the AVC (H.264) tab. There are a myriad of AVI possibilites there such as: CREATIVE ZEN or ARCHOS AVI FILES.

 

So... HOW do I "keep it the same as my Source?" How? Which output selection makes it the same as my Source? There are a number of options here.

 

Again, I want to mention that I am going to be ultimate destination for the project will be a standard DVD (not blu-ray). So... does that mean that rendering the footage as an "MPEG 2 - BEST QUALITY" from the VideoWave 'Output' tab might also be an option for pre-rendering slow motion effects? Also, is the VideoWave Output tab the best and only way to "pre-render" to specific file types such as AVI?

 

Thanks...

[bimicher]

Okay... Not really sure how helpful that is. Let me break this down: My original "Source" footage is a standard mini-dv tape captured via Roxio video capture with a firewire 1364 from the Panasonic camera it was originally recorded on. The capture setting were "DV AVI." So, HOW am I keeping the subsequent footage that has been slowed down in VideoWave the "same as the source?" I am outputting the slow mo footage via the Output tab in VideoWave. There are many different flavors of AVI files available there... for instance: GENERAL EDITING - GENERIC AVI - LARGE SIZE - (which, incidentally yields a 680 x 420 size file - smaller that the 720 x 480 file my original footage was captured at). Other AVI options are available under the AVC (H.264) tab. There are a myriad of AVI possibilites there such as: CREATIVE ZEN or ARCHOS AVI FILES.

 

So... HOW do I "keep it the same as my Source?" How? Which output selection makes it the same as my Source? There are a number of options here.

 

Again, I want to mention that I am going to be ultimate destination for the project will be a standard DVD (not blu-ray). So... does that mean that rendering the footage as an "MPEG 2 - BEST QUALITY" from the VideoWave 'Output' tab might also be an option for pre-rendering slow motion effects? Also, is the VideoWave Output tab the best and only way to "pre-render" to specific file types such as AVI?

 

Thanks...

 

After selecting "Output" via Videowave tab can:

- in the Purpose window select All and the first entry should be "Same as original"

- or select DV avi oupt in the same Purpose drop down box

 

You can also select DVD mpeg2, best quality if you do not expect to do any editing to the video. When creating the DVD that mpge2 video would not be rendered again.

[wade1953]

Walt:

 

Great information... all new to me. This is why we ask questions. Thanks for the specific directions/advice. I am going to follow them and let you know the results. Thanks so much!

[Jim_Hardin]

Actually the "Same as Original" setting can be a little elusive...

 

If 'SaO' isn't showing, look at the Properties - Details of your clip and select one of the outputs that matches it.

 

In this example, the clip is an AVI of DVD Quality, I I set it as close as I can:

 

 

 

 

I am beginning to wonder if you are just overlooking a better way of doing this...

 

The speed adjustment in Trim effects The Selected Clip... if yours is affecting everything, it is because you did not isolate the portion you wanted to change

 

You would do that by Splitting at the beginning and end of the clip then selecting only part you want to play with:

 

 

 

Above is a 26 sec clip but I split the 5 second segment that I want to change.

[wade1953]

JIM:

 

WOW!

 

Boy, did I just get a great tutorial on selective SLOW MO effects without having to pre-render those segments. i REALLY appreciate all the illustrations you've taken the time to produce. I learn mainly by visual... so this is really great. Thanks so much. I am going to give this a try and tell you what happens.

 

Incidentally, Jim... I just sent you a PM regarding another issue of exporting a clip as an AVI file when it contains many different overlay tracks. I apologize for any redundancy I may have created.

 

Thanks again for taking the time to create this SLOW-MO TUTORIAL for those of us working with videowave. I think this is a valuable lesson for others as well.

 

Wade

[wade1953]

Hi, Jim;

 

I have tried the above method and am running into a problem probably due to lack of experience with the split clip tool.

 

I found an area of an AVI file where I wanted to START the slow mo effect. I clicked the SPLIT CLIP TOOL. I then scrubbed forward about 30 seconds to where I wanted the clip to stop the slow mo effect. The problem is when I click the SPLIT CLIP tool a second time a message appears saying: "the item cannot be split at this position, because one or both of the resulting items would be too small." Not sure what this is telling me here. As I say, I've selected a good 30 seconds of are to slow-mo so I'm not sure why the item would be too small? There is also ample footage prior to and after the clip I want to make an effect to - at least 60 seconds on each side of the clip area.

 

Any ideas? Again, I've never used the split clip before so maybe I'm not doing this right. Appreciate your help...

 

WADE

[bimicher]

Hi, Jim;

 

I have tried the above method and am running into a problem probably due to lack of experience with the split clip tool.

 

I found an area of an AVI file where I wanted to START the slow mo effect. I clicked the SPLIT CLIP TOOL. I then scrubbed forward about 30 seconds to where I wanted the clip to stop the slow mo effect. The problem is when I click the SPLIT CLIP tool a second time a message appears saying: "the item cannot be split at this position, because one or both of the resulting items would be too small." Not sure what this is telling me here. As I say, I've selected a good 30 seconds of are to slow-mo so I'm not sure why the item would be too small? There is also ample footage prior to and after the clip I want to make an effect to - at least 60 seconds on each side of the clip area.

 

Any ideas? Again, I've never used the split clip before so maybe I'm not doing this right. Appreciate your help...

 

WADE

You have to first select the clip on the timeline in which you want to make the split

[wade1953]

That's the ticket. Selecting it by clicking it so it highlights first was the key! Who wouldathunk? Thanks so much!

[Jim_Hardin]

That's the ticket. Selecting it by clicking it so it highlights first was the key! Who wouldathunk? Thanks so much!

 

 

There is ONE Limit with Split...

 

It does have to be 11 Frames or greater in length

 

That is roughly 1/3 ^rd of a second so you would be very unlikely to hit that limit

[wade1953]

Thanks, Jim.... You're right about unlikely to hit a limit of 1/3rd of a second.

 

Meant to ask, several postings back in your illustrated tutorial - you showed selecting "DVD BEST QUALITY" under the Make Movie tab in VideoWave. The illustration was in answer to my question about best settings to pre-render when you've been working with AVI files. So, two questions: One: Why do you recommend selecting DVD BEST QUALITY as opposed to say, some AVI format for pre-rendering? Wouldn't rendering in AVI file keep the quality uniform? Or does one render in MPEG 2 for DVD BEST QUALITY while still working in VideoWave because it will eventually be rendered in an MPEG2 format when it's going to ultimately be for standard DVD playback?

 

Final question: If you have combined different file types while editing in VideoWave - such as the original AVI files and another pre-rendered segment in MPEG2 DVD BEST QUALITY - will there be qualitative differences when you view those segments on the final DVD?

 

Hope you are following this line of question and THANKS!

[Jim_Hardin]

Well it works best if you Stay in the same Format and Quality till you are done.

 

When the final render takes place to Author a DVD it will be rendered into mpeg2.

 

But if it is in another format before you reach that point, best to keep it in the same one

[wade1953]

Okay. Makes sense. Thanks for your help.