Videowave Pan & Zoom Editor Leaving White Lines At Top/bottom

[guitarcat]

I use Creator Nxt Pro and I'm doing a videowave production. I use automotion on the pictures. If I use the Pan & Zoom editor, it is creating a thin white line at the top and bottom of the picture. Has anyone else seen this or know of a fix? I've attached a screen snippet.

 

[AutumnFang]

I think Pan&Zoom editor may have an edge line which maybe the white line you find in your screenshot.

just guess, no confirmed idea for this...

[Jim_Hardin]

I have never used it...

 

I was hoping someone with some experience would jump in

 

Does it actually show up in the final output? just wondering if it is a screen glitch within VideoWave...

[guitarcat]

The line(s) do show up in the final output. It seems like the white line is probably from the predefined background color I chose so the image may not be 'filling' the frame even though it really should be according to the pan and zoom editing screen. I didn't have any issue with this in the previous version of Creator Pro, but not sure I tried a white background, either. Maybe I just didn't see it with a black background.

[guitarcat]

I changed the background to black and now I can see a black line...so there seems to be a bug in the software such that the edited version (pan & zoom editor) of an automotion photo is not filling the frame (it doesn't always occur). If you use automotion but don't edit using the pan & zoom editor, the problem won't occur. The black background will be a lot less noticeable on a final production so I'll leave it black. Thanks for your responses.

[David2012]

I have the same problem. If you look at the edges of the main screen of the editor you'll see the lines appear and disappear as you resize the red frame

The lines will alternate from side to side and change in size as you adjust the box. Adjusting from different corners affect where the lines appear or disappear. It's a weird setup. My problems are 3 fold. The lines show up in the final product ruining any attempt of a professional video. The pan zoom screens are too small making seeing these lines difficult. When using photos or video with darker edges it is almost impossible to see the lines yet they still show up in the final product as an anomalies. A fix would be a background color changer in the pan zoom editor and larger screens in the pan zoom editor. Seeing as the actual program hasn't evolved much in generations (I use Creator Pro 2011) I wouldn't hold my breath.

[sknis]

Are your videos captured as true 16 by 9 or some other slightly different ratio (like 16 by 10)?

[David2012]

I have not used it for any video until resently, I'm doing a short parody of the final battle in Lord Of The Rings. But I use it with photos. I crop them dowm to 16x9 when possible but I've spent many hours experimenting and regardles of the size or ratio the same (anomaly) occurs with many hours of trying to adjust these photos in the editor. B ut what it does do is take away from the artist creativity as an editor some what by forcing you to use a slightly in larged image with differently framing. I even have to use my magnifier to see these lines in the pan and zoom editor. Then I change my background to white in my preview screen just to make sure I've got it right and then manually move the frames back and forth as you have to make these adjustments at the start and ending frames and any keyframes if you have them. I also have a problem if my edges are dark but move into a color area because you can't see the black lines in the editor. I guess for most people this doesn't matter but here are two examples of my work were I believe it has made my work a little harder. I post on youtube and use their HTML5 player to avoid frame jitters. http://youtu.be/-icVV9chGRQ and http://youtu.be/M9bbkYugUSA You can tell on the Cleopatra video I wasn't completely succesful in getting the line to stay as thin as possible and the Arabiam sights video is a good example of going from black to color in the images.

[sknis]

David, I'm sorry but I could not see - actually I forgot to look for the issues - the content was too distracting !

 

At 720, the video looks a bit fuzzy especially at the beginning. it should be sharper than that unless you are really blowing up the images (pardon the expression).. When you open the video editor - Video Wave, are you first selecting wide screen - 16 by 9 and working with that? I hope you are not using the Assistant Are you using this

?.

 

What are you using to crop the images to 16 by 9?

[David2012]

Are you watching in 720p? That's what I'm using and the HTML5 player as well. As you can tell I used a lot of still shots from old movies and had to tweek them as well as unblimish skin becuase of aging and anomollies in the photos. Some of the effects such as those in Cleopatra are puposeful. I even dumb down some of the colors as well for effect. My only concern are the lines that are hardly there in Arabian Sights but do appear very occasionly in Cleopatra but only after hours of tweeking. Perhaps You could experiment with still shots of your own using a white screen to see for your self what I mean. I know there is no work around and perhaps I'm just venting my frustration. I use either the video wave crop or Roxio Photo Suite. But it makes no different as the lines are there through out the pan and zoom. Thanks for checking it out though. Perhaps I could make a demo so you can see what I mean. Yea, I'll try that.

[bimicher]

Like sknis, I cannot see any white lines.

[d_deweywright]

I just watched the "Arabian Sights" and I think I caught two instances of what I would call a shadow of a white line towards the top of the screen. I had it set to 720p and I was watching full screen on my 1680x1050 monitor. If I was not looking very carefully for them, I would definitely never have noticed them.

[David2012]

I may have solved my problem partially. I've been using Videowave to do a slideshow. I have all the same options in slideshow after I have added my photos. I found that it is easier to tweek my pan and zooms after starting it in slideshow mode. As for transitions you're forced to pick an option. If you leave the transitions before your pan and zoom tweaking the effect will end before the transition is complete so you end up with a frozen image in your transition. So when you get to the editor just remove all transitions in the theme option first then set you photo trim. After tweaking the P and Z add the transitions and trim as you will. It's not perfect because if you change your pan and zoom you do end up with a slightly thicker black line at the top than if you leave it to the program but it stays uniform throughout the whole production. There is still a problem of panning from darker sections to brighter sections of the photo but that's something I can live with by hit or miss until it's right. Some people would say try another program but I like the format and the skin I guess you would call it. The black background of most the others is hard on the eyes for me. So here's living with it.

PS

Is there a spell check here?

[Brendon]

PS

Is there a spell check here?

There's a 'nanny filter' on the forum to prevent posters from saying such words as "term#gant", but any spell-checking has to be done by your own browser.

 

Brendon