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Nxt Version Of Previous Creator 9 Project Won't Burn

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I have been using Creator 9 for a number of years in order to present slideshows of my family photographs. The project consists of 12 years of collections of slideshows with each year represented by a separate submenu. Each year can have up to 8 slideshows. The total number of slideshows is currently at 69 and the amount of used DVD disc space is indicated as 1.1GB. This project has worked without any problems on Creator 9.

In 2013 I upgraded my PC to a Windows 8 machine and as Creator 9 would not install on it I was forced to purchase Creator NXT. I was then disappointed to discover that my previous project would not run on the new installation and I had to start the project again. Having spent many hours doing this I eventually discovered that the project will not burn to disc or to a file with Creator NXT even though it previews OK. Error 8004529c while recording slideshow was the error displayed. I then started to delete slideshows from the project and after several deletions the error changed to 800700e error encoding menu's. Eventually, I got to a point where the project burned OK. At this point there was only 6 years of slideshows and a total of 36 slideshows in the project. From all the work that I have now done I think that I can conclude that there is a significant reduction in capability in Creator NXT. Can you please confirm that this is so?

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How much video in terms of time are you trying to put onto a DVD? You can put up to ONE hour on a single layer DVD at best quality;up to a little less than two hours on a double layer DVD. If you want more, you can use a very compressed format like Divx or XVID (not capable in Roxio NXT; use a third party converter) or if you have the equipment, put them on a blu ray disc.

 

This is a global standard so there have been no changes in the amount that you can put onto a disc.

 

That 1.1GB for 69 slide shows is very small. What format are the slide shows? Actually what program in NXT are you using? There is not "slide show" application except for "PhotoShow" that some people have with their version of NXT.

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I am using MyDVD and I am not actually putting any video in terms of time into the project. I am only putting still photos into the production in the form of slideshows with music backing tracks. The MyDVD program shows me that there is 54 minutes remaining as well as the 1.1GB of disc usage. Each slideshow is made up of between 20 and 99 still photo's. I have previously created DVD discs with Creator 9 for the 69 slideshows running successfully. When I regenerate the same project for NXT it previews perfectly but will not burn until I reduce the complexity significantly. There must be a difference somewhere. I am extremely confident that I have reproduced the original build so it must be a problem with Creator NXT I believe.

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So, what happens is when you put your still pictures into MyDVD, it actually is creating a Video of a still image. As to Steve's question, how long does it take for the various slideshows to play?

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Still not there yet :D

 

The Time/Space Remaining are based on the Quality that you selected!

 

MyDVD defaults to "Fit to Disc" which is the worse possible setting one could use :huh:

 

Easy to test...

 

New MyDVD Project (default settings - change Nothing!)

Set Quality to HQ

Slap 100 pictures in there

What does it say now?

 

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Burn to File and see what happens ;)

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I am using MyDVD and I am not actually putting any video in terms of time into the project. I am only putting still photos into the production in the form of slideshows with music backing tracks. The MyDVD program shows me that there is 54 minutes remaining as well as the 1.1GB of disc usage. Each slideshow is made up of between 20 and 99 still photo's. I have previously created DVD discs with Creator 9 for the 69 slideshows running successfully. When I regenerate the same project for NXT it previews perfectly but will not burn until I reduce the complexity significantly. There must be a difference somewhere. I am extremely confident that I have reproduced the original build so it must be a problem with Creator NXT I believe.

 

I am confident it is not a problem with Creator NXT but it is your project.

Could you explain exactly how you are creating your project.

 

You state that you have 54 minutes remaining on your DVD at your current quality setting.; that means your project is 6 minutes long. Now you state you have 69 slideshows with 20 to 99 photos in each slideshow. A bit of math shows that allows only about ,26 seconds per photo. Is that really what you want?

 

How are you adding each of the 69 slideshows? Do you have a separate menu item for each slideshow?

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I'm wondering if he's using the slideshow application that went away a loooong time ago. That actually used the original images, and created some sort of "instruction" file which was then run by a .EXE file. Truly not a video, and you could put a gazillion slides onto a single DVD. But that wouldn't play on a DVD player, only on another PC, and would display at the resolution of your monitor (assuming your pictures were that size or larger). That would make sense.

 

And I have no idea if that application might still run under a newer version of Windows.

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The very same project has run without problems on Creator 9. Starting with the very same set of slideshows reprogrammed for Creator NXT I have to remove quite a number of slideshows before the project will burn. I produced the build in exactly the same way as I did for Creator 9 MyDVD. I have also created the NXT version of the project in a simplified manner which avoids the need for audio tracks and does not change the menu backgrounds and audio and this has exactly the same characteristics. The way that I created this simplified project is as follows. 1) Open Creator NXT and select Create DVD's. 2) Select Menu Style Beach. 3) From Edit drop down select Add Submenu and add 10 Submenu's to set up the structure of the build. Each Submenu is described as a calendar year. Adding more than 5 menus causes MyDVD to overflow onto a further top level menu twice since there are 10 years of submenus. 4) Select the first year menu from the Project View Menus and from Menu Tasks select Add Slideshow and open the required photo set from the appropriate photo file folder. This adds the required photo's to the project. Repeat this for all photo's for the particular year and then repeat for all other years. When there are more than 5 groups of photo's for a particular year then a further menu is created by MyDVD for that year. 5) Saving the project after each slideshow is added is done as a precaution of avoiding effects of crashes. 6) When all slideshows have been added I preview the project with no problems. I then attempt to burn to an ISO file which is not possible unless I remove many slideshows. I have tried reducing quality setting but this makes no difference.

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Mickey, you still have not answered the question that has been asked at least three times, how long (minutes) do your slide shows run when you play them? (I'm talking about the old ones you created in EMC 9.) This may seem like a frivolous piece of information to you, but it's important to help us understand what is going on.

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Digital Guru. It is difficult to say how long the slideshows run if all were run after each other. MyDVD sets a minimum duration of 5secs per photo in the slideshow and I usually select fit to audio track if the track means that the duration can be more than 5secs which depends on the number of slides in the show. On average a single slideshow takes about 5minutes and I have set the project to run only the single movie/slideshow at a time. I would guess that to play all 69 slideshows sequentially would take 300 minutes or more. My project is a set of slideshows and not movies and as such I believe that MyDVD must treat them differently.

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Digital Guru. It is difficult to say how long the slideshows run if all were run after each other. MyDVD sets a minimum duration of 5secs per photo in the slideshow and I usually select fit to audio track if the track means that the duration can be more than 5secs which depends on the number of slides in the show. On average a single slideshow takes about 5minutes and I have set the project to run only the single movie/slideshow at a time. I would guess that to play all 69 slideshows sequentially would take 300 minutes or more. My project is a set of slideshows and not movies and as such I believe that MyDVD must treat them differently.

 

You will never get it to work. A standard 4.7GB DVD can only hold 60 minutes of video at best quality and you are trying to squeeze 300 minutes on the DVD - impossible. myDVD doesn't care if your source is videos or photos, it creates video from all your sources

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Digital Guru. It is difficult to say how long the slideshows run if all were run after each other. MyDVD sets a minimum duration of 5secs per photo in the slideshow and I usually select fit to audio track if the track means that the duration can be more than 5secs which depends on the number of slides in the show. On average a single slideshow takes about 5minutes and I have set the project to run only the single movie/slideshow at a time. I would guess that to play all 69 slideshows sequentially would take 300 minutes or more. My project is a set of slideshows and not movies and as such I believe that MyDVD must treat them differently.

 

So, I'd like to go back to your old procedure for a minute, under EMC 9. Do you recall the name of the application that you used there? Also, if you open up a DVD of your old slideshows, created with EMC 9, what does the file/folder structure of the root directory look like? If you can capture a screen shot of that and post it, that would be helpful. For how to post a picture, click here.

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Digital Guru. I can assure you that the project is working on a disc that I generated with Creator 9. Also, if the project that I have produced with Creator NXT is too big it should not preview as it does.

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Digital Guru. I can assure you that the project is working on a disc that I generated with Creator 9. Also, if the project that I have produced with Creator NXT is too big it should not preview as it does.

 

Of course it will preview, it just can't be burned to a DVD.

 

Like Dave, I am curious to see the file/folder structure of the DVD you created in Easy Media Creator 9

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My previous project was created using the same MyDVD program. When I first started creating slideshows I used a free version called MYDVD for CD. If I can work out how to send directory structure screenshot I will.

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I hope that you get this screenshot. It was not taken from my original Creator 9 project it was taken from my second simplified NXT version which also fails to burn. The screenshot shows the first menu of the project.post-117175-0-17244300-1389632943_thumb.jpgpost-117175-0-17244300-1389632943_thumb.jpg

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"MYDVD for CD" creates the project on a CD ( a VCD) and thus has nothing to do with creating a project on a DVD.

myDVD in EMC 9 and myDVD in NXT are not the same.

 

The image you posted really tells us very little. Have you added all the photos already or does the picture only show the menu. Your picture only shows that you have about 8 minutes of video in your project.

 

Please answer the questions asked by Dave in post #9. We are interested in what you created in EMC 9.

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Digital Guru. I can assure you that the project is working on a disc that I generated with Creator 9. Also, if the project that I have produced with Creator NXT is too big it should not preview as it does.

 

I understand that it worked. But what we don't know is exactly what you have that worked. Again, I realize that some of these questions seem pointless to you, but be assured, the answers will help us help you.

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Do you remember anything about using XVid or DivX? That is the only way to get that much video on a DVD.

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I will attempt to acquire some screenshots from my Laptop Creator 9 project tomorrow. Thanks for you patience.

 

For now why not simply list the file structure on the DVD as has been asked for several times.

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If I may. Put the DVD into your burner. If it start to play, cancel it. Select your computer and look at the dvd. Right click on its icon in Windows Explorer. Select open (not play). You should see at least two folders - video and audio. Ignore the audio. Open the video. Post a screen shot of what you see there. It does not have to show all the files. You should see some ifo and some VOB and more.

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You recall the post I made, with pictures and emphasis on HQ???

 

Yet your screen caps show you are set to 'Fit to Disc'...

 

Must be an information overload, I think I will step out at this point -_-

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Must be an information overload, I think I will step out at this point -_-

A Guru Cluster, Jim. :(

 

More than one guru at a time tends to do this.

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post-117175-0-62322800-1389698504_thumb.jpgAs the screenshots show custom quality I did a further screenshot of project settings. I then tried the same settings in my shortened NXT project which has been failing on burn but this still fails. I then reduced quality setting to EP and got the same result.

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