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Used to use Creator 9, finally upgraded to Win7 so I just purchased Creator NXT2. I have tried to edit TiVo files and m2ts files (from my canon camcorder) in both advanced video editing and copy & convert - the files play while editing - but with no sound. When the project are complete - still no sound. Any ideas?

 

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Jim_Hardin Digital Guru

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No one else has reported any specific problems with NXT 2 and TiVo files???

 

Of course Someone always has to be the first :lol:

 

I do not think any of the regulars here have TiVo so we don't have firsthand experience with it :unsure:

 

I guess you have watched and re-watched the Learning Center Video on this in NXT 2???

 

Why don't you start by outlining the exact steps you took from start to failure along with any messages along the way.

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I just downloaded VLC and tried to play the file and got the same result as you. Interesting. What has TiVo done to these files? Creator is supposed to be able to work with them though.

 

 

Nicky,

 

Where did you get that 7-second clip? Off your TiVo recorder?

 

I believe it's encrypted by your TiVo, which would explain why you, CD, and I all get the same result from the VLC player. The VLC player can't decrypt the file. I get the same fragged effect when I try to play it in WMP, though I must 'fess I have only WMP 9 on this machine.

 

Roxio Video Copy and Convert [VCC] requires the TiVo Desktop installed to decrypt the video before it can be converted to anything else.

 

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I installed the TiVo desktop software 2.8.3, but it won't help because I don't have a TiVo recorder with your encryption/decryption key. The Desktop seems designed to use your TiVo key and decrypt stuff coming off your TiVo to play on the PC, or to encrypt stuff going from the PC to your TiVo. It is tied to one TiVo only, and the .tivo files aren't transferable to other TiVo machines.

 

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Even after installing the TiVo Desktop, VCC still rejected your file. I suggest that's because I don't have your TiVo's key.

 

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I think for YOU to use that clip you would have to install the TiVo Desktop software, and tie it to your TiVo VR during installation by entering your TiVo's key.

 

I also think that TiVo is a festering pile . . . . .

 

 

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Tough! :)

 

On January 23 TiVo laid off 5 of its 7 hardware engineers - that's 71% of them. http://arstechnica.c...ndon-its-boxes/ And there is a suggestion that they have already abandoned support of the PC in favor of Apple products.

 

There's an interesting article here http://www.tgdaily.c...and-irrelevance published January 25, which questions the continued relevance of TiVo. The author, himself a TiVo subscriber, concludes by saying:

If you are going to continue to pay for TiVo then, you are truly holding back the tide and that's okay because, everyone knows that it is really easy to hold back the tide.

TiVo, go ahead and ditch your hardware business. Or, don't. It doesn't matter. Your service doesn't really make much sense these days.

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Brendon, I do have the TiVo desktop software installed and tied to my TiVo dvrs. That's how I got the clip off my TiVo and on to my pc.

 

Jim - wow, I do not understand that at all How can they abandon pcs? Don't pcs still vastly outnumber macs?

 

So am I back to where I started? I have purchased the software recommended by TiVo and it appears to be useless in regards to my TiVo premiere. I wonder if its still possible to return the software.

 

Thanks guys. If anybody has any ideas....

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Oops!

 

2. In the details there are no differences I the files other than the size. The file recorded on the TiVo premier is much larger - not surprising since it is a high def recording.

 

Differences in audio one file from the other?

 

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I just found out that way back 2007 or so after Roxio was swallowed by Sonic it partnered with TiVo to produce TiVo to Go for Mac, so perhaps I shouldn't comment any further. :ninja:

 

Nicky, I think you might be able to find out a bunch if you go and scan through the TiVo Community board, http://www.tivocommunity.com .

I just saw one topic which should interest you, http://www.tivocommu...p/t-367702.html about converting .tivo files to .mpg, and that was just the first topic I came across.

 

Sorry I can't help further, but I don't have the hardware.

 

Regards,

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I've been sick, so I did not get to try again fully. I did record two short test recording on both my tivos and have just begun playing with those and have already encountered a problem. So - my samples are about 2 minutes long. One is recorded on my Tivo Series 2 the other on My Tivo Premiere. used Tivo desktop to dwnload the .tivo files onto my computer. First I started Creator, selected "videos/movies" then "copy & convert video." When the program opens I selected the Movies button in the "add source" area and navigated to the my TiVo recordings. I added the first sample, then followed the same steps to add the second. For the output I selected DVD. Next I selected the first sample video and clicked on the "trim movie" button. The editing window opened. I pressed play and the video began to play, but no sound. I checked my speaker - all fine there, but no sound. I closed the window, selected the second sample, clicked on trim movie, pressed play when the editing window opened - voila - sound!

 

The same thing happens when I try to edit these clips using "edit video-advanced." The file recorded on he series 2 has sound, the file recorded on the premier does not. BTW - when playing these clips with windows media player either using TiVo desktop, or by just navigating to the files and opening them, they both play just fine with sound.

 

Anybody have any clues to help me?

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Jim - I will post a screen cap when I get home from work.

 

cd - I have looked around the tivo forums, but mostly I have seen folks talking about alternatives to Creator. I have not posted on their forums because I suspect I will be advised to dump Creator and purchase something else (don't have any more money to spend on this hobby) or to try some free tools that are way beyond my comfort level. Thanks though.

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