KeepOnTruckin Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Sorry if this is the wrong place for this, but I am unable to figure out how to cut a series of 1 gig VOB files of old super-8 movies into manageable sized clips. One issue is that the files, when opened, indicate that the clips are 14 seconds long--when they are in fact 20 or more minutes long. But I cannot find an editor that will contine playing beyond the 14 seconds..... so that I can then slip imto short scenes. Any editing sofware (cheap or free......) suggestions appreciated. Thanks. KoT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_deweywright Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Are these .VOB files from DVDs that were previously made from the super-8 movies? One thing you can try is renaming them from .VOB to .MPG and see if that makes any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Hardin Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Do you still have the original DVD's available? If not, try what Dave suggested and HERE is a converter a lot of use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepOnTruckin Posted June 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Are these .VOB files from DVDs that were previously made from the super-8 movies? One thing you can try is renaming them from .VOB to .MPG and see if that makes any difference. They are VOB files created from a VHS tape, which is a tape of multiple super-8 movies from the '50s and '60s. The tape is close to two hours long, and Easy VHS to DVD3 Plus took two DVDs to get it all. The first DVD has 5 VOB files of just under 1 gig each. I have copied the 5 files onto the hard-drive and am trying to work with/edit them. I have renamed one as an .mpeg file, but is has not helped me. After a break........ I think I am wromg about the files showing as 14 seconds long--I think it represents 14 MINUTES in length, but the editing sofware/freeware/evaluation products I have been trying seem to see them as 14 seconds in length, although I can over-ride that issue for purposes of plaing the clips, but not for editing. (note that I am new to this type of software.) Another break....... As I have been writing this response, I have been trying different things. I renamed from .mpeg to .mpg and it seems to have worked. I (thought I) just successfully sliced off a 3 minute clip as a "project", but when I save the clip as an .mpg file, it will not play back, indicating possible wrong codec..... Still working on it...... Now it works---the "project" needed to be "converted" to a video format of my choice. Not sure which one was best--many were listed, with the FPS, aspect ration, bit rates, all sorts of stuff about which I have some, but limited, understanding..... So I converted to .mpeg, and it works. For 30 second or so, the clip plays the company's watermark prominently indicating that it was created using a trial version of the software, but it looks good. Will continue to mess with it befre deciding whether to buy. Any thoughts on which video format would give the best quality and universality? Thanks. KoT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdanteek Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 but the editing sofware/freeware/evaluation products I have been trying So I converted to .mpeg, and it works. For 30 second or so, the clip plays the company's watermark prominently indicating that it was created using a trial version of the software, but it looks good. Will continue to mess with it befre deciding whether to buy. Not free-ware with a water mark! Why not use the real free-ware Jim pointed you to in post #3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Hardin Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 If you have 5 VOB files on a 4.7 GB DVD, you have already forfeited your Quality... VOB files are broken at 1 GB intervals per DVD Movie standards based on the technology at the time. A 4.7 GB DVD at HQ holds i hour of movie. Any chance you could re-capture the tape??? EVD 3 captures at HQ and you can have one contiguous file or (better choice) capture more manageable chunks and put them together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimicher Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 They are VOB files created from a VHS tape, which is a tape of multiple super-8 movies from the '50s and '60s. The tape is close to two hours long, and Easy VHS to DVD3 Plus took two DVDs to get it all. The first DVD has 5 VOB files of just under 1 gig each. I have copied the 5 files onto the hard-drive and am trying to work with/edit them. I have renamed one as an .mpeg file, but is has not helped me. After a break........ I think I am wromg about the files showing as 14 seconds long--I think it represents 14 MINUTES in length, but the editing sofware/freeware/evaluation products I have been trying seem to see them as 14 seconds in length, although I can over-ride that issue for purposes of plaing the clips, but not for editing. (note that I am new to this type of software.) Another break....... As I have been writing this response, I have been trying different things. I renamed from .mpeg to .mpg and it seems to have worked. I (thought I) just successfully sliced off a 3 minute clip as a "project", but when I save the clip as an .mpg file, it will not play back, indicating possible wrong codec..... Still working on it...... Now it works---the "project" needed to be "converted" to a video format of my choice. Not sure which one was best--many were listed, with the FPS, aspect ration, bit rates, all sorts of stuff about which I have some, but limited, understanding..... So I converted to .mpeg, and it works. For 30 second or so, the clip plays the company's watermark prominently indicating that it was created using a trial version of the software, but it looks good. Will continue to mess with it befre deciding whether to buy. Any thoughts on which video format would give the best quality and universality? Thanks. KoT there should be no need to do any conversion of the video using any 3rd party software. All you have to do is copy the vob files from the DVD to your hard drive and then change the vob extension to a mpg extension (not mpeg). VHS2DVD 3 will accept those mpg files without any problem. I just tried it with a DVD created using VHS2DVD 3. One of the mpg files (a very short one 32kb) would no load - I think it is some sort of logo file which is not needed. I had no problem doing trims on the clips. Could you list the files and their sizes that are contained in the Video_TS folder for each DVD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdanteek Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 there should be no need to do any conversion of the video using any 3rd party software. All you have to do is copy the vob files from the DVD to your hard drive and then change the vob extension to a mpg extension (not mpeg). VHS2DVD 3 will accept those mpg files without any problem. I just tried it with a DVD created using VHS2DVD 3. One of the mpg files (a very short one 32kb) would no load - I think it is some sort of logo file which is not needed. I had no problem doing trims on the clips. Could you list the files and their sizes that are contained in the Video_TS folder for each DVD? Remember under tools folder options 'Hide Extensions For Know File Types' needs to be unchecked or your renamed vob will be mpg vob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepOnTruckin Posted June 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 If you have 5 VOB files on a 4.7 GB DVD, you have already forfeited your Quality... VOB files are broken at 1 GB intervals per DVD Movie standards based on the technology at the time. A 4.7 GB DVD at HQ holds i hour of movie. Any chance you could re-capture the tape??? EVD 3 captures at HQ and you can have one contiguous file or (better choice) capture more manageable chunks and put them together The first DVD holds 4 VOB files at 1.048 kb and 1 VOB at .324kb (I know I am off by a factor of 1000) I did not catch the inlcuded link to the converter and will try it. Does anyone know if it also has any editing features? Or is it only a converter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Hardin Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 The first DVD holds 4 VOB files at 1.048 kb and 1 VOB at .324kb (I know I am off by a factor of 1000) I did not catch the inlcuded link to the converter and will try it. Does anyone know if it also has any editing features? Or is it only a converter. Actually I was only guessing per the number of VOB's trying not to complicate it If you right click on one of the VOB's and select Properties, then look at the Details Tab there is your answer. We expect to see the frame size at 720 X 480 but important ist the Data Rate at 8 or 9 kbps... Below that an color is lost and the appearance gets fuzzy. My favorite example is a scene I used in testing. Two people were standing in front of a wood panel. At 6 or 7 kbps you could readily tell it was a wood panel... At 8 or 9 kbps you could easily see the grain of the wood This is why I asked if you had considered re-capturing the tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepOnTruckin Posted June 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Actually I was only guessing per the number of VOB's trying not to complicate it If you right click on one of the VOB's and select Properties, then look at the Details Tab there is your answer. We expect to see the frame size at 720 X 480 but important ist the Data Rate at 8 or 9 kbps... Below that an color is lost and the appearance gets fuzzy. My favorite example is a scene I used in testing. Two people were standing in front of a wood panel. At 6 or 7 kbps you could readily tell it was a wood panel... At 8 or 9 kbps you could easily see the grain of the wood This is why I asked if you had considered re-capturing the tape. As in your psting, my video shows: 720 x 480, Data rate: 8000 kbps, Total bitrate: 9563 kbps, and, Frame rate: 29 fps. While it alos shows some audio specs, the original source was silent film. Are these specs the best I could expect, or is there something I might do differently? Thanks again. KoT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Hardin Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Pretty good, not going to get much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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